a bureau spokes person rejected the proposal as not excepted while the militant wing the alkis sam brigades has said that it will increase the intensity and ferocity of its attacks on israel just this morning two rockets fired from gaza into israel as the israeli army has said that it will cease its campaign on the gaza strip if to try and bait. into doing so now it's not clear whether in the back channels a master rectally with egypt is giving a less hard line position if hamas had accepted the proposal or does accept the proposal at this stage we're now in the eighth day of this conflict it would really signal a failure and a blow to the organization of masses not being able to cause israeli casualties why almost two hundred palestinians have been killed as you say vast majority of them civilians in this eight days of escalation at the same sime hamas would not have won an entire lifting of the siege on gaza which is one of its preconditions and one of the reasons it gave for rejecting this proposal now at the same time. it's clear that the civilian toll here has been immense and if israe

by how massive the offensive began a week ago this video was released by hamas is preparing for sam brigades and shows domestically produced rockets being fired at tel aviv israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu claims he will use any means necessary to stop them and amid growing international calls for a cease fire the country ramps up its preparations for a possible ground invasion. but artie's poor slayer went to the streets of tel aviv to find out how israelis themselves see the ongoing offensive. most israelis support their militaries as strikes of a gaza seeing it as a legitimate response to defend the country's borders but at the same time people here are afraid the iron dome anti-missile defense system around ninety percent of rockets it's that ten percent that remains that has seen some never misses who could accept to receive myside like this without doing a thing it's not possible i think very said really very thing that the israelis don't need this kind of lives and really cared about they would thing. just i don't know how to feel about it israeli prime minister benjamin neta

as you mentioned that televised speech by the supreme commander of hamas's al ca sam brigades. he again stated that there would be no middle ground. he said that as a condition for cease-fire, then israel ol would have to lift what he termed the blockade of the gaza strip. that certainly falls into line with what the political wings of the groups here in gaza have been saying that in this fight with israel, they will defer to the military wings of the militant factions and let them decide whether they make peace or continue to make war with israel and certainly tonight, the ca sam brigades are saying the war will go on, wolf. >> i suspect it's going to get very, very lively, shall we say, in the next hour or two where you are. we will constantly check back with you, karl. thanks very much. let's get to reaction to what's going on. joining us here in jerusalem, israel's minister of intelligence, u val stein its. thanks very much for joining in. what would it take? you're a member of the cabinet and know what's going on. what would it take for israel to accept a cease-fire with h

brigade commander. lack of discipline. no training whatsoever general antonio taguba was forced into retirement for his rigorous investigation of the abuses the military command severely punished sergeant sam prevents for refusing to attract his testimony about tortures at abu ghraib i do know of military doctors who. either directly or indirectly did resist cooperating voiced their dissent and. they feel and it is i really agree with them that their careers one way or another were heard. in contrast the officers who developed and conducted the enhanced techniques program remain well protected the cia has provided doctors james mitchell and bruce jessen with a five million dollar legal defense fund in case they are charged with torturing detainees. there or we got professionals who are trained in this kind of work to get information that will protect the american people and by the way we have gotten information from these high value detainees that have no protection in two thousand and six president bush announced that the enhanced techniques provided invaluable intelligence but by then the program was so widely condemned that a high army official could publicly refute him without getting