do you remember sam donaldson? sam donaldson used to stand up and shout at reagan all the time. >> there's a difference between shouting at presidents when they are going into the helicopter or it's a scrum, but having a news conference where someone is calling this one and that one and you jump in and then you don't stop talking, and then you're not asking a question but lecturing the candidate. that doesn't upset you? >> let me just say first of all, jorge ramos is no reporter. let's not equate him with a reporter. he is the walter cronkite of spanish language media in this country. he's the star journalist and he has a certain weight on issues of immigration specifically when he says that to his community this amounts to racism, discrimination, and oppression. >> juan, he jumps in there all the time and really what they do on univision is when he gets on air, it's an opinion on where he stands on immigration and like howie said. he went on a tirade with trump. he's made it a point that he basically says on issue