d labarre, mark lindbloom, and sam dunlap are still with us. have to say, guy, i'm looking at yields, the bond yields are at their lowest ever. certainly at the top tier of junk bonds. is this looking a little frothy? guy: spreads are tight. what we tend to see in a high-yield market is that spreads can remain tight for a long time. they spend most of their life in the bottom quartile of tightness and then explode higher based on outside catalyst. yes, they are tight. they will probably remain absent any outside catalyst. but that is a pretty lousy risk reward opposition, particularly if you're an investor in securities. lisa: sam, agreed? sam: we agree credit spreads are historically tight. some concerns in corporate credit that scott pointed out. the increased leverage we have seen in corporate america, some of those fundamentals from a high-level appeared to be a concern. it is worth noting, if you look back to 2019, bbb corporate's one of the most disdained asset classes on the planet going into the year. the powell pivot, balance sheet exp