been leading it, my sense is, that the guidance from this committee and your staff, especially sam fowler, who knows a lot about this, means that there's not going to be the wholesale consolidation. there will be changes and there will be more efficient ways of doing so. >> i understand that. and that's not a problem. the bottom line is, i think we were expecting a report by february 15th? >> it is. >> you have your report. >> i is heed it last night, it's in my briefcase. >> you will be sharing it with us? >> i will be reviewing it. >> and it will not go the direction we thought it might have been going before? >> i think we should have a separate conversation as soon as we get it. i think it will improve the functions of osm and blm, and we will find some efficiency there's. i hope you'll be positive in your response. >> i know it's been talked about briefly. i'm concerned about the definition. i mean, i want people to know, west virginia, our streams are very

been leaving it at my sense is that the guidance from this committee and your staff, especially sam fowler be the wholesale consolidation for osm and blm but there will be changes and there will be more efficient ways of doing so. >> i understand that and that is not the problem. the bottom line is they think we are expecting a report the report by february 15. >> we actually received that last night. >> okay, you will be sharing that with us? it is not in the direction that we thought it was going before. >> i think we should have a separate conversation this before we release it but i think it will improve most of the functions of osm and blm and i think we will find some efficiencies there and i think it will be, you think, i hope you will be positive in your response. >> i know it's been talked about briefly and i think it has been brought up by the senator and my counsel in short. i'm concerned about the definition. i want people to know west virginia, our water sources are very valuable but are topography is what it is and a stream that carries water solvents or a string that provide

to discuss this is richard fowler democratic strategist and john mccain well he and a defense attorney and a libertarian richard john both in the show thanks for having me sam and john let's start with you so it looks like. there's a likelihood that the individual mandate might get struck down based on the reports that are coming out today there are something like fifty three million americans who don't have health insurance and if you're not going to give them subsidies to go get health insurance a lot of those people share young people who don't want it there's a considerable amount of people who do want it but are sick or can't afford it are actually getting subsidies to go get it on their own and require insurance companies to take september and we're not going to do a single payer national health care plan what do we do about this problem. well that's the that's a budget issue that's not a constitutional issue this case this obamacare i should say the affordability act is strictly based on the commerce clause specifically article one section a clause three and the issue before the court in the supreme court is does the federal government have broad pow