and with her is sam goldman, also cochair of the federation of lgbtq alliance. welcome. >> as a participant in this leadership development program, how has it been for you so far? >> it has been a very wonderful experience for myself and the other participants, which as we talked about earlier -- is a diverse group of people. to come together with other folks who are looking to merge their core identities of being in the lgbt community and also being in the jewish community, in a way that we haven't really had an opportunity to do so before. this has been i opening personally and are fractionally. and we have all been paired with a mentor who has been key in developing personal goals and leadership and how we can put that into the work we are doing. >> how many people are in this particular cohort? >> there are 12 participants in the cohort? >> how often do you meet? >> on a monthly basis. >> wonderful. you have mentioned there have been some interesting conversations. can you give an example of what those might be for you? >> yes. a couple of them have been --

if you ever saw him in an interview where he imitated sam goldman beautifully and you thought i would've loved to see him playing nathan detroit -- brian: he did "entertainer." a tragic version. there are times when it was very funny. the problem with handling that part was he couldn't allow himself to be any good. he is playing a lesser entertainer. nathan: famously he was asked how did he achieve that mediocrity in singing and dancing? he just said, i did the best i could. [laughter] he famously did "oedipus." he played mr. puff, the critic. he was testing himself in that way a long time ago. i think that is what happens. it has come at a great time in my life to explore this side of myself. it has been thrilling. it has been life-changing to come back to ken branagh. not that i don't enjoy comedy and going back to terrence mcnally. i think one thing helps the other. it is like when you do stage and you go back to tv or film. one enhances the other in some ways. having done this affects your other works as well. charlie: do you put a higher value on brown -- branagh? nathan: no, i thin