today, i am with gun instructor sam hayes, who teaches a seminar while carrying while black. >> yes,ial class for that. one of this things we have to take in consideration is the perception society have created who we are with law enforcement reactions while being gun owners a as well. i look at you brothers and each one of you having physicality that can cause a misunderstanding. luke like an r&b singer. >> we should all get cardigans? [ laughter ] >> it is something you have to think about. any concerns and how you want to handle that? >> after philando castile, there is a big debate on how you will hand it. it is a mind field. >> if the traffic stop is escalated to a point where you need to step out the car. put your hands on the hood of your car. officer, i am legally armed and you let them give you direction. should we have to do that? that's the thing. as an african-american gun owner, you need to be a lament expert on what your state laws are guarding in your rights to carry. we don't have the duty to advise. there should not be repercussions. when he puts me in a car, you are