different with the -- there were so many people involved in world war~ii, so if you read, like, sam hinesn essay in the 1960s, about going to college on the g.i. bill after world war~ii, and, like, there's -- they're putting up extra housing for all the vets, and all the vets walk around, like if you were working with planes, you would wear one thing, and other guys would have like little a beef with each other, and vets from iraq and afghanistan go to college and they're alone. they're like the only guys. they can't talk about this stuff with each other. the other thing about world war~ii that is kind of -- sort of the most insane horrific war stories i every heard have been told by veterans of world war ii and it's weird if you have this experience. war at its best is ugly thing. it's the industrial scale killing of other human beings. and i think it's a little odd to sort of like -- the things that stay in your mind are the really fucked up things and it's kind of odd to come back to -- iraq and afghanistan -- come back to being called a hero for what you have done, if you feel like i'