we are honored to have sam kass who is a senior policy adviser at the white house and serves as executive director of "let's move." plan the white house vegetable garden. we should have scheduled this a few months later so we could have gotten some fruits. sithas kindly agreed to down with a stellar reporter who covers everything food policy related. thank you both for being here. i will turn it over to mary claire. >> thank you for coming. i am interested in before you came to the white house. tell

not unlike what sam kass referenced on the school meals. it is one thing to have a healthier menu which we have. but we want that menu consumed. so we incorporated a number of, for example, a practice of offer versus served, instead of just handing a student a plate that has been preselected by somebody in the food line. it is the, we encourage schools universally, give the child or student the opportunity to choose. in the wic program similarly in this regard, we are, i am very encouraged by something i've seen on the west coast that is larry, there are far fewer opportunities in that regard in the eastern part of the u.s. these are what are referred to, particularly in california, nevada, arizona, these are what are referred to as wic-only stores. these are stores that only sell healthy foods, only sell foods that are in the wic food package. and i was in a store in sacramento, one of these wic-only stores in a very poor area of sacramento, a year before last. i wanted to see the store first-hand. these were as i said an entity one genera

we are honored to have sam kass who is a senior policy adviser at the white house and serves as executive director of "let's move." plan the white house vegetable garden. we should have scheduled this a few months later so we could have gotten some fruits. sithas kindly agreed to down with a stellar reporter who covers everything food policy related. thank you both for being here. i will turn it over to mary claire. >> thank you for coming. i am interested in before you came to the white house. tell me about how you became interested in the politics of food and the intersection between food and politics. >> absolutely. you cannot show up at the white house and then get interested in politics. think it started very early on in my cookie career. , well, thetraining actual story that really rocked it mean was i was trained in vienna. we were making a rhubarb sauce. the sous chef was training me. yankee, blend the rhubarb and then get a bunch of butter blended and make your sauce." i took a huge amount of butter. he looked at me and said, i said a lot of butter. i took a whole mother thing of