. >> but remember, sam katz is still watching and waiting and considering and he has the the money. remember, 24 million-dollar, that is a lot of money. but, anyway, bottom line is katz can come in with heavy duty money also. >> i think sam katz, i would not count out candidacy by someone like bill green and a lot of wild card out there. but senator williams has like jim kenny had has a wide base of support not only african-american support but also in the business community, on education. >> he has been fund raising quietly before declaring. >> yes. >> i think a lot of people saying this is not an exciting race this will be a heavyweight bought. we have a lot of interesting people. they are not interesting because we know them but there have been public servants for many, many years. they know ins and outs of our government. they know the city. so we do have have a nice portfolio of people who know our city, pretty well who i'm just waiting to see what the next vision is for next 50 years. >> yes let's talk state politics now. new governor has had a busy couple weeks. tom wolf step