>> it helped sam katz. sam katz is probably as popular as he's ever been, among republicans, democrats independents. he's certainly been all these parties, as well. but there's a modicum of credibility by announcing before the primary election. so now i think, when he puts out his position papers, whether it be on education, crime, economic development... >> doesn't look like he has an axe to grind. >> doesn't look like, "yeah, well, you know, i didn't run because tony didn't win," or something like that. >> and he's turning into a thacher longstreth elder statesman with his series on philadelphia history, and maybe he doesn't want to be in politics anymore. maybe he wants to have his impact in a different way. >> isn't it nice -- sorry -- that he took a walk with his family or his wife, and it was about what really matters? not to get sappy. i mean, it's true. >> all right, while we're talking election, 23 people running for city council, some of them at-large positions. an interesting field. again, 16 dem