because sam kinny had to keep his eye constantly on the presidential limousine. and sam saw all three shots find their mark. and emery saw all three shots find their mark. unfortunately, they weren't asked to testify. >> lisa, it must have been amazingly difficult keeping up with facts like these and trying to separate facts from some of the silly stories that are out there. how did you do it? >> a lot of long days. jerry and i talked about this a lot because i'd read something or read reports, and i'd say, jerry, this contradicts what you're telling me or what clint is telling me. and i came to realize that these were the guys that were there, and their memories are so vivid and so clear, and as i would talk to other agents, they would corroborate the stories. and i realized that this is the truth. and the other people that are writing these other reports and all these researchers that have studied this endlessly, they weren't there. you know, there's -- so you can take some of what is written, but what i believe is what these men are told me to be true. >> i pr