. >> sammy mcclaren is a veteran officer of 24 years. better known as big sam. the >> heartless felons is one of the many gangs we have in the county jail but they have the one we have the most problems with. they become very violent and persistent and they don't mind to letting people know what their agenda is. >> the heartless felons originated in 1999 inside the county's juvenile facilities. >> they felt they were getting disrespected and being mistreated and tired of people messing with them. they formed a group, which will be known now as the heartless felons and they demanded to have respect. >> i came in when i was 15 years old and we had no family, nothing, no money on our books, nobody to care about us or whatever. my rank is boss. i'm not at the top top. but i'm one of the people that call shots. i want to be the hnic, be the top man, al capone. >> walter cooperwood is awaiting trial in charges including attempted rape and aggravated robbery and grand theft auto which he pled not guilty and picked up an additional charge of felonious assault. >> heartl

you sure did. >> big sam mcclaren launches an investigation into the assault on nick dicillo. >> youg to me. you lying to me about how and why you slapped that man. >> and later -- >> in the ten charlie pod he smeared feces all over his body, and the walls, and the doors. >> nothing surprises me. some guys you know they're perfectly calm one minute and the next minute they're doing what he did. synchrony financial partners with over two hundred thousand businesses, from fashion retailers to healthcare providers, from jewelers to sporting good stores, to help their customers get what they want and need. banking. loyalty. analytics. synchrony financial. engage with us. because i make the best chicken noodle soup >>because i make the best chicken noodle soup because i make the best chicken noodle soup for every way you make chicken noodle soup, make it delicious with swanson® oats go! wow! go power oats! go! go power! yayyyy! for over 19 million people. [ mom ] with life insurance, we're not just insuring our lives... we're helping protect his. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment

. >> sam mcclaren has known woodwin since he arrived at the jail and now wants to speak to him about his lej alleged role in the fight. >> have a seat in that yellow chair, mr. goodwin. tony, we're here to talk about the incident that took place on jail 19b, altercation involved two individuals. tony, it's stated that you were there. >> i wasn't there. >> you wasn't there? why did they say you were there? >> i have no idea. >> they come out of the room you both hollering at each other. they say it was in cell 4. which cell were you in? >> i was in four. >> came out, grabbed his shirt, i feel a certain kind of way. you stepped into cell 15. from there, got him in a head lock. tony, you did not hit him, you did not get a chance to fight him. >> i didn't touch him. >> but you were there. >> come on, tony. >> guilty by association? >> no, sir, guilty because you stepped in the cell. >> i didn't step in the cell. >> the state says you did. give me your version of what happened. make it short, though. >> i can't really tell you. i ain't know nothing until they came and got me. >> come on,

. >> the first day we met hammond, he was petitioning gang investigator sam mcclaren to release him back to general population. >> i'm trying to get off 23 and 1. >> how you trying? >> i ain't got riders or none of that. >> you knocking out people, man. >> i'm not knocking out people, man. all right, man, but, listen, but -- >> you can't even look at me and tell a straight face -- >> you right, you right, you right, you right. i'm just saying -- >> we got individuals out there now that's either scared to come out of their room, can't use the telephone, can't get a tray. they're being persecuted by individuals wanting to put their will on them. ramon hammond, give him his props. he's -- he's for real. he's a fighter. and he don't mind fighting. but he has a rule. if you go against his principles, you will pay. i will beat that ass, that's how he put it, i will beat that ass. that's hammond. >> i'm a nice dude. a lot of people don't think so. a lot of people think i'm a grimy person and they can't trust me, but i'm a good dude for real. if i mess with you, i mess with you. if i don't, you