sam murray? >> i am present and accounted for. thank you for this opportunity. in one thing i would like to mention earlier, because i think it is important and we can ticket -- and we tend to forget these things -- i would like to share some events with you. when is the program started as the 9916 program under alice pitcher historically. i think mr. wallace should be given credit for how he helped to improve the program in the standpoint of what we did when we look at the program and redeveloping it before we got our new coordinator. we looked at it from a different perspective. when you have a training program that does not ever get someone into management, he and i felt that was a failure. we created. the way we looked and developing getting someone from the community that actually could help to motivate other students at a higher level -- you had a pre-apprenticeship program that became an apprenticeship program. we do have an individual from that program that actually became a grade 5 who is still in the apprenticeship program. i think that is the part tha