>> first of all, it's been in place since early 2001 established by ted turner and sam nunn. with distinguished and led me to be excited to be able to move into that ceo role is that the organization is a think tank to a certain extent, but more cannot operationalize his programs. for example, going to the early part of the organization that helped move very dangerous material out of serbia during the hostilities there. more recently, just last year we cut the ribbon on what is called the low enriched uranium bank that provides security or supply to discourage countries from having enrichment technology. the organization gets stuff done on the ground as well as do policies geared >> you back at the end of the cold war is long with their opportunities to really cut back the threat now further developing andhaur countries. >> first of all in the 90s come and they very coming very strong efforts done to control and eliminate nuclear materials for nuclear weapons. then, it is not nuclear directly, but indirectly, issues with russia began to build. for example, nato expansion is s

host: erased concerns along with former senator sam nunn, it will no nuclear and arms expert, writing that the negative political dynamic between nato includes regular .osture the u.s.'s defensive nato stands with the uncertainty that has engulfed the trump administration's relationships with nato and russia. you write that forward deployed nuclear weapons in russia possibility of blunders. the trump administration's national security strategy of goes to analysis that would emerge from a hard look. do you think those forward deployed weapon should not be there? guest: what we're calling for is a re-examination. let's get it on the table. i think that there is a consensus, including among the military, that these weapons do not satisfy any military objective. we have a capable and flexible nuclear deterrent without them. to imagine ahard u.s. president imagining that the first use of a nuclear weapon would come by us having a plane and pilot from another country being the delivery vehicle. ofrth we have a new world terrorism and instability on the southern flank of nato, turkey and syr

guest: it's an organization that has been in place since early 2001 established by ted turner and sam nunn. what has distinguished the organization and led me to be excited to be able to move in to that ceo role is that the organization is a thing take to a certain extent but more than that it operationalize its programs. for example, going to the early part of the organization helps move very dangerous nuclear materialge out of serbia during the hostilities there but more recently just last year we cut the ribbon on what is called the lower iranian bank that provides security of supply to discourage countries from having enrichment technology. the organization tries to get stuff done on the ground as well as present new policies. >> host: when you look in the new times was there opportunities missed to come back the threat that is now further developing in countries customer. >> guest: i think first of all in the '90s there were very, very strong efforts done to control and illuminate clear materials in nuclear weapons. then it's not nuclear directly but indirectly issues with russia bega

in the meantime, today, former trump campaign adviser sam nunn will be interviewed by mueller's team.ired in august 2015 because of some facebook posts. shimon prokupecz joins me with the latest on that. interesting that nunburg is going in now, so late in the game, apparently. >> reporter: more mystery, more people coming in to see the special counsel. we don't exactly know why he's going to the special counsel. he's a former adviser to the president, worked in the campaign, so he's expected to be at mueller's office today, where he'll be interviewed by a host of investigators, fbi agents, and a number worked on the campaign through 2015, also worked for trump previously and he was fired from the campaign after controversial, racially charged facebook posts surfaced that were linked to him. then in 2016, he was sued by trump for violating terms of a nondisclosure agreement, he was accused of talking to the media, leaking information, that lawsuit was eventually dropped, he's also, john, interestingly enough, quoted in michael wol wolff's book, "fire and fury," so perhaps maybe someth

. >> i want to ask you about a piece you wrote with former democratic nor sam nunn saying that humanion, may, in fact, be the most likely scenario to set off a nuclear catastrophe. talk to me about that in reference to what hans was just talking about in terms of this new nuclear review.. >> well, first of all, ali, we do believe it is the case that much more than in a certain nuc powers, whether it's the u.s. and russia or of course the north american situation, india and pakistan, we have many cases of nuclear powers having difficult relationships, shall we say, that could easily lead to miscalculation. so, one of the questions that we would pose to the nuclear posture review of the administration has just put out is does it, in fact, address -- does it decrease the chance of miscalculation. unfortunately, my first read being of it is the opposite, that the issue of expanding the use of nuclear weapons potentially to major cyberattacks, to deploying new so-called low yield weapons and submarines when we already have low-yield weapons deployed. we think will probably add to the pote

with secretary former defense bill perry, and former senator of armed service committee chairman sam nunnave formed a group of former senior nationalrn securiy officials who have warned about the risk of nuclear proliferation together you have called for a global effort to reduce reliance on nuclear weapons in 2007 the four of you wrote we endorse setting the goal of a world free of nuclear weapons and working energetically on the actions required to achieve that goal. today in this hearing we have talked about russia and russia's nuclear policy but i want to ask about america's nuclear policy. in the coming weeks the trump administration will release its nuclear policy review which is rumored to call for new nuclear weaponsnd capability, more usabe nukes in expanded conditions under which the united states would contemplate using a nuclear weapon. s secretary scholz, do you continue to believe that the united states should reduce its reliance on nuclear weapons and if so why do you believe that would be in our national security interest? >> i think the use of nuclear weapons -- >> is you

host: erased concerns along with former senator sam nunn, it will no nuclear and arms expert, writinghat the negative political dynamic between nato includes regular .osture the u.s.'s defensive nato stands with the uncertainty that has engulfed the trump administration's relationships with nato and russia. you write that forward deployed nuclear weapons in russia possibility of blunders. the trump administration's national security strategy of goes to analysis that would emerge from a hard look. do you think those forward deployed weapon should not be there? guest: what we're calling for is a re-examination. let's get it on the table. i think that there is a consensus, including among the military, that these weapons do not satisfy any military objective. we have a capable and flexible nuclear deterrent without them. to imagine ahard u.s. president imagining that the first use of a nuclear weapon would come by us having a plane and pilot from another country being the delivery vehicle. ofrth we have a new world terrorism and instability on the southern flank of nato, turkey and syria