i want to commend sam ramarian who has been very much involved in the process and give us guidance to what the commission would not find acceptable and chief staff lynne in his staff have been helpful to us as well staffing the process. >> i want a follow up question. some of the advocates are very invested in this. and transparency is a huge part of what we have been a huge part of what we're endeavoring to do. the question if you can speak to your experience the law especially in san francisco. does not allow for everything. in closed session. if you could explain why you believe it's beneficial to have those conversations not in the public view when so many of these have been in the public view. >> certainly it will be to the public view for the commission in all. labor negotiations involve strategy and if/then scenarios and discussion of legal issues and potential outcomes and positions that the employer may take. having a public discussion of our strategy with respect to the poa would mean we're transparent to the poa that is not considered good labor negotiation strategy. for ot

i want to commend sam ramarian who has been very much involved in the process and give us guidance to what the commission would not find acceptable and chief staff lynne in his staff have been helpful to us as well staffing the process. >> i want a follow up question. some of the advocates are very invested in this. and transparency is a huge part of what we have been a huge part of what we're endeavoring to do. the question if you can speak to your experience the law especially in san francisco. does not allow for everything. in closed session. if you could explain why you believe it's beneficial to have those conversations not in the public view when so many of these have been in the public view. >> certainly it will be to the public view for the commission in all. labor negotiations involve strategy and if/then scenarios and discussion of legal issues and potential outcomes and positions that the employer may take. having a public discussion of our strategy with respect to the poa would mean we're transparent to the poa that is not considered good labor negotiation strategy. for ot

i want to commend sam ramarian who has been very much involved in the process and give us guidance to what the commission would not find acceptable and chief staff lynne in his staff have been helpful to us as well staffing the process. >> i want a follow up question. some of the advocates are very invested in this. and transparency is a huge part of what we have been a huge part of what we're endeavoring to do. the question if you can speak to your experience the law especially in san francisco. does not allow for everything. in closed session. if you could explain why you believe it's beneficial to have those conversations not in the public view when so many of these have been in the public view. >> certainly it will be to the public view for the commission in all. labor negotiations involve strategy and if/then scenarios and discussion of legal issues and potential outcomes and positions that the employer may take. having a public discussion of our strategy with respect to the poa would mean we're transparent to the poa that is not considered good labor negotiation strategy. for ot

is recognize while the rights are on the back end we have the sam ramarian includes stake community stakeholders for one reason we thought it would put us in a stronger position to make the best policy possible knowing there are rules. what this commission has endeavored is to share the rules we're governed by the. the facts the law what this commission has layed out. i will ask while all of you in this room and people watching at home your leaders people listen tow. when you say this commission has been hijacked by the poa, that is not true that is actually giving power to an entity you have major issues with. i would say we're in the middle of this process i believe this this commission i believe in this department and the direction we're going in i would ask while we feel passionately about these things we have to follow the rules that is important that we know the rules follow the rules and get this right. anything from my fellow commissioners. >> very well said madame chair. >> i appreciate the passion you bring here. the knowledge and the time and the passion i agree there is a balance wha