we talk to writer and director martin mcdonagh and its stars frances mcdormand and sam rockwell. >> it is almost too dark to tell a story about. but when i imagine the person who put the signage up there to be a mother and a vong woman, everything fell into place. i didn't even have to plot the film after that. mildred popped up and it was just about following her through her adventures almost. >> we conclude with michael lewis, his book the undoing project is now out in paperback. we talk about thatnd a new series for "vanity fair." >> it's a very odd system of government. we have two million federal employees yefer seen by 4,000 political people. sometimes they know what they are doing. sometimes they have to learn very quickly. >> so the trump people didn't show. it was like an exquisite course on how the federal government works, was prepared and the student didn't show up. >> robert costa martin mcdonagh, frances dk more dand, sam rockwell and michael lewis. all of that when we continue. funding for charlie rose is provided by the following: bank of america, life better connected.

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frances mcdormand and sam rockwell. i am pleased to have all of them here.script that have been around? >> i wrote it eight years ago. it wasn't like i was trying to slog it around. charlie: let it rest and marinate? >> it was pretty identical to the one we started a year and. projecting a different with sam, "seven psychopaths." this one could have happened but because we sent the ball rolling with that one, this one was always going to be the next one. i am kind of lazy so i traveled around and did nothing for a few years. she looks like a fascinating woman, even in that trailer. >> i think she is a fascinating woman. francis: you put martin's writing in a cocktail shaker and me in a cocktail shaker and other good folk from the theater world and mix it up and you are happy. you are happy. charlie: you saw it in the script? >> oh yeah. martin actually wrote it for me. he has seen not only my film work from but my theater work. he knew what he was dealing with. and i'm 60 charlie. come on. i have a breadth of work and some stuff on my face to work with. char

. >> seth: also sam rockwell who you've worked with both on stage, and in films, "seven psychopaths,"h a sweet person, and yet he plays both a sweet person, and a really awful person. is that, again, do you know when you're writing this, oh, this is very few actors can pull this off, and sam is one of them? >> yeah, i mean i always kind of tend to write for sam, there's a voice in my head or a character that i kind of identify him with. which isn't really him because most of those parts have been kind of tough, vicious kind of characters. and as you know, he's the sweetest guy imaginable. but he's one of the greatest actors of his generation. so he can do the darkness, and the bullying, but you kind of know that he can peel off the layers, and do something beautiful with it, too. >> seth: it's great. your films -- this film has some violent moments. i mean, even in the clip, we saw double crotch kicks. >> yeah, yeah. she was only supposed to kick the boy. she just improvised that whole -- >> seth: did she really? [ light laughter ] no, i was going to say. 'cause i think it's very forw

we talk to writer and director martin mcdonagh and its stars frances mcdormand and sam rockwell. >> italmost too dark to tell a story about. but when i imagine the person who put the signage up there to be a mother and a vong woman, everything fell into place. i didn't even have to plot the film after that. mildred popped uan

sam rockwell is amazing. the movie is very dark but also comedic moments as well.ying in four theaters that i know of. arc light bethesda angelica mosaic in fairfax bethesda row and landmark e street. i gave 84.5 out of five. one of the best of the year easily. seek it out. i know it's early in awards season but that's a movie you'll be seeing very much in the oscars. go see it. it's phenomenal. great story. next up is "justice league." we got to get into this. >> of course. >> money maker. >> i got to keep this concise. so let's go through the positives and negatives. positives, action scenes are amazing. when the team is together those scenes are incredible. the introduction of the characters are phenomenal. the wonder woman introduction scene is amazing what you're seeing here. any time you have the "justice league" fighting and or talking and interacting. that's what makes it work and that's why i enjoyed the film overall. ezra miller is the man. the opening credit song is very bad. there's some dialogue that i found to be a bit poorly written and there's some

i loved sam rockwell a limited release movie it's playing. national release early right now.add academy award. >> i like her. >> 4.5 out of five. justice league. >> what did you think. >> a lot to get through here. positives and negatives. positives, action scenes are a mazing. character introductions incredible any time the team is fighting together or talking those scenes are great. batman, aing what man, wonder woman, flash, cyborg all the action scenes real dollar work. i thought that the flash rah miller did a great job. jason did a great job as act aqua man. it succeeds being a good action film the team assembles and kicks major butt to save the world negatives didn't like the opening seen. didn't like the opening credits. thought the villain mode okay kerr some of the dialogue was poorly written. with that being said the overall experience for me the three times i've seen it has just been a fun action movie in theaters i think ben affleck is a great batman i gave 84 out of five. that's a b grade. let me explain where that lands on the d.c. e list. >> right. >> it's tha