sam rogers, thank you very much. i will be back with both of you. you know how to get me. all right? and later in the show we will talk to somebody on the ground in afghanistan who has been dealing with exactly this to talk about how big the challenge is and what time means. >>> back at home, we have our own time sensitive battle. covid. and the numbers are getting worse. we kind of expected that post-labor day. now this is a new phase. all our kids are going back to school. i know some are back already. we are going to use their vence vence /* experience to go to school figuratively on problems because infections are rising among kids. again we thought we'd see that and agwe thought we'd see that, but not lick this. we have a school district in georgia that has returned to online learning. why? deaths. we're back with the superintendent for that district. the problem, the solution next. t liberty mutual knows everyone's unique. that's why they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. [ nautical horn blows ] wealth is your first big investment. wort

let's bring in sam rogers. with other groups and other veterans and allies to help people, like sarah and these kids, get out of there. sam, it's good to have you. again, thank you for what you're doing. >> thanks for having me on, chris, i appreciate all your support. >> what's the update? >> so, sarah's had a couple of conversations with the state department. um, though, i have to be honest, her feedback from the state department is directly in conflict with secretary blinken's comments today. that we will continue the relentless efforts to help americans, afghans, and foreign nationals who want to leave. she's under the impression that she's the only one who can get out. and she's dealing with some -- some really crippling guilt and some challenging questions of does she leave these people behind? and can she? >> now, let's talk about the legitimacy here. the people she wants to help. what do you know about paperwork and any way of verifying that they have not the right but the credentials that america would

let's bring in sam rogers, one of the veterans whose group is working with other groups and veterans t of there. sam, good to have you. again, thank you for what you're doing. >> thanks for having me on, chris. appreciate your support. >> what's the update? >> sarah had a couple conversations with the state department. i have to be honest, her feedback from the state department is directly in conflict with secretary blinken's comments today, that we will continue the recentless efforts to help americans, afghans and foreign nationals that want to leave. she's under the impression she's the only one that can get out and she's dealing with really crippling guilt and chal llengi questions cshould she leave thee people behind? >> what do you know about paperwork and verifying they have not the right but credentials america would smile on in terms of helping people? >> right, chris. we've made available everything we've got, you know, military identification, letters of recommendation from military officers who these translators and their families served under and made that available to no

sam rogers, lieutenant colonel dan wilson, i know you're working with scores and scores of people. i know you are not here to take the glory. i asked you to come on to help understand the situation better because i kept hearing about it and wanted the audience to hear about it as well. we'll be in touch. i'll put the names of the organizations out. and i am a phone call away at all times. gentlemen, thank you for what you're doing. thank you for what you're doing for sarah and countless others. appreciate you. >> thanks, chris. >>> now look. that is the reality. okay? if you look online you'll see #digitaldunkirk. you know what it is a reference to. this kind of amazing rescue mission of guys doing it for themselves. it is happening here. and it does speak to how screwed up the situation is. that men like this, women like this, too, by the way obviously, are taking it on their own because these people mean so much to them because as you just heard sam say, an interpreter kept me alive. all of us have this thing these people just do language. it is not. it is logistics, understandin

former intelligence officer and afghan war vet, sam rogers. he's here because he's who sarah put me in contact with. but he'll be the first one to tell you he's worked with a lot of people many of whom he's not even met before. he's the colegs's director with concerned veterans foundation. good to see you again, brother. >> good to see you, chris. thanks so much for having me on again and i appreciate you giving a shout out to really the network if not hundreds of thousands of veterans doing this. i'm just a tiny piece of it. we wouldn't have been able to get to a new safe place about it. we're glad she's in a safer place. and, you know, the state department's briefing just had -- had me thinking that i'm glad they're finally at the point we were, you know, almost ten days ago which is analyzing routes out of country, alternate routes outside of airports. but we just want to know what it is they're doing, what they're planning to do. our folks don't necessarily have time. >> that's the problem. the commodity here is time, and it's been cut sho

people like herbert and roger and sam, black and white, said together we are stronger, we can affecto improve the conditions, create opportunities, to have education progrs. that was threatening to an institution that only knew how to run by punishment. so attica, the eventtself is almost a microscopic view of the failure of our criminal justice system. amy: and the conversation between president nixon and the new york governonelson rockefeller? >> well, i have always, from the attica observers committee we met weekly at bill kunstler's house. one thing i come to the conclusion, nelson rockefeller s making choices as he was reconstructing his political image, he wanted to run for president, was perceived as a liberal, was reconstructing -- this was calculad. so the decision to send in troops was all part of the plan to begin with. and it was decided that they waited until monday morning because they were afraid they were the unrest in the ghetto, as they described it, if they went in on sunday. so they waited until monday morning. they could have taken ov the institution with a gas,

number one actually bought it is out of the final grant sam of the season gil strain was beating in round 3 of the us open by home players. shelby rogers largest came back from being 5 to down in the final set against the rain was intention. well, number 43, eventually winning the deciding sets in the high break to move to the last 60 to every 20. good. so i'm sorry i you guys are awesome. i didn't want to leave. i mean, i just said, you know, make, try to stay and mad. i can't get any words or every time i try something different . you can't win everything with tennis, match that you play and i'm proud of myself. i'm proud of my team for all the efforts we put in over the last 6 months. it's been absolutely incredible. i think we, we could have lost much more. honestly, i probably wouldn't change a thing with, with all of the, the tough moments that we have had. it's created some of the most enjoyable experiences and not learn so much about myself. watches the play button and the final in rounds form, the 18 o drops just one game in a straight to win over that. so the best form of the time is through to the last 16 . her 2nd grade bra

sam, they are still close. i still keep in touch with many students. that's also a reflection of rogersk, i think, where the neighborhood in chicago where sullivan sits. it's a neighborhood sarah mentioned an earlier event felt like the whole neighborhood came out to support the school, and it is a place that rises up around sullivan in many ways and rises up around refugees and immigrants too. that is community, yeah. >> sarah, i'm going to give the last question for now to you. you guys had mentioned the physical space that your office is, the relationships that you build with these students, which are obviously long-lasting. during the pandemic, you know, a lot of the last year and a half was remote. you didn't have the physical space to interact with your students and to build the relationships in that physical space. so, you know, one, how do you cater to the needs of these kids that really need help? and also, i mean, just like how are you navigating that and building those relationships? >> yeah, we -- i mean, we lost -- we lost a lot of it. you know, we -- i'm sure there were a