actress and used to go to theater all the time and started riding very naturalistic plays when sam shepardand those guys were happening. sort of writing about my family. i am not sure about the dialogue, but that let me into trying to write fiction and once i attempted that i had the incredible luck of writers in the day. there in her -- they encouraged me to write, being nice to me. on the other hand, something about the process was fulfilling and nurturing, it was taking the question i had about myself and putting them into a container space eventually. the beauty of that, isa this tooth young folks or older folks, i was in an old age home once and it is student who was 107 years old was just starting to write. >> never too late. >> never too late. if you have a strong emotion or memory about something get it down on paper because in five years or six years it could turn the hair. i didn't realize that when i started writing i'm glad i did because a lot of my emotions which were very raw ended up keeping me going even when i had myself about. >> so you talk about teaching writing because