john: so brazen with uncle sam winking. >> this is treasure groups that benefit. mortgage bankers association, and association of people builders andrytors. >> home prices go up, there are more and more deductions because there are more pressure groups that get formed just for purpose of getting the tax deduction. john: my biggest deducts, pension, government decided we want to encourage people to save for future, then maybe we don't have to take care of them. i get to defer some taxes. >> maybe don't ever shrink that. whether i save or not at any given points in my life, should be my decision, free of government coercion and involvement. saving for retirement is good, i don't need government to give me an incentive. i want lower taxes i'll have more money to save. john: you say you don't need to incentive but a lot of americans say ha is government for. to better activity for good of the cold country? >> this is how we lose our freedoms, when government steer people in a direction of what they should eat, what they should conesume, and can't and cannot buy, what

. >> uncle sam winking. there's benefits from this.re's a pressure group behind each one of these deductions that are benefitting directly>> association of builders. >> there are more of these deductions because they are more and more pressure groups that get formed just for the purpose of getting these tax deductions. >> take my biggest deduction. pension. government decided we want to enocc enencourage people to save for the future maybe we won't have to defer them. >> they don't ever shrink back. that's never whether i save or not at any given point in my life should be my decision free of government coercion, free of government involvement. yes, saving for retirement is a good thing. everybody should do it. i don't need government to give me an incentive to do that. i want much lower taxes i will have more money to save. >> you say you don't need this incentive but americans say what is government for except to steer people back. >> this is when government starts steering people into the direction of what they should eat what they

. >> just so brazen uncle sam winking and -- >> this is who benefits from this.here is ara pressure group behd each one of these deductions that are benefitting directly. >> rich bankers association,e association of home builders, association of realtors. >> they benefit 'cause home prices go up and they're moreo u and more of these deductionsed 'cause there are more and more of these pressure groups that get formed just for the purpose of getting these tax deductions. >> all right. take my biggest deductions. a pension.. government decided we want to encourage people to save for the future, then maybe we won't have to take care of them.o i get to defer some taxes. >> it's the maybe we don't get o take care of them which i don'te find funny. 'cause they never shrink that. but whether i save or not at any given point in my life should be my decision free of government o coercion, free of government involvement. yeah, absolutely, save for retirement is a good thing. everybody should do it. i don't need government to give' me atn incentive. i want much lower taxes,