lincoln sometimes used the very disrespectful racial slur words nigger, s nigger, sambo, and cuffy. in his debates with douglas, he said he agreed with douglas in being horrified at the thought of interracial marriage. lincoln said, and i quote, judge douglas is especially horrified at the thought of the mixing of the blood of the white and black races. agreed for once. 1,000 times agreed. presumably, lincoln was purportedly speaking for himself and all white people when he said, quote, there's a natural disgust in the minds of nearly all white people to the idea of an indiscrimination of the amal goe mags of the white and black races. his strongly express eed aversi to interracial marriage might have been insincere. according to law, lincoln replied saying the law means nothing. i shall never marry a negress but i have no objection to another man doing so. [ laughter ] >> this partly confirms my view that some of lincoln's offensive statements about african-americans pander to the prejudices of voters. the sixth definition of racism is that racism is inadequate concern for the welf

these are all of the negative sambo images. they already had a huge collection of the most demeaning -- i mean, demeaning even images of barack obama. so you're absolutely right. but, you know, ken, when i was growing up there were no excuses. we expected white people to be racist. i think that barack obama was shocked, just like you were, unlike i was, at the degree of racism. i think a little bit, maybe he let his guard down. i think maybe he believed the narrative that a new racial -- a day of racial harmony had come. i think they were caught offguard. i don't think that they -- i think -- i don't think they had anticipated the depth of american racism or -- and how much had not changed because a black man had been elected to president of the united states. michael: let me ask you this, skip. henry: that's barbershop talk. [laughter] michael: when you were arrested at cambridge, did you know immediately when he answered that question this was going to be a big deal? because it sounded to me like it was a very obvious point h