and i would say, for better or for worse, samuel alito came with an agenda. i think samuel alito approaches the law with clear-cut ideas about how to read a statute, how to read the constitution, and he bases it on precedents to be sure. but he, as opposed to retired justice anthony kennedy, has a very consistent outlook that is ideological. and for better or for worse. i am not using the word ideological is necessarily negative. brian: if you were republican and had been either eisenhower, or name your president, and you had william brennan, then you got john paul stevens, then you souter, would you tighten things up if you were a republican and you saw what they did on the court? joan: there are many strains to republicanism. i would say that is what happened. george h.w. bush did that. georges w. bush did that. and certainly donald trump has done that. here is something else that has changed since the year of eisenhower. it is the role of the federalist society. it is not just the president and his men and women making those choices. they have very strong

i would say, for better or for worse, samuel alito came with an agenda. think he approaches a law with clear-cut ideas about how to read a statute, how to read a constitution, and he bases it on precedents to be sure. he, as opposed to retired justice anthony kennedy, has a very consistent outlook that is ideological. for better or for worse. i am not using the word ideological as negative. brian: if you were republican and had been either eisenhower, or name your president, and you had william brennan, then you had john paul stevens, than you had david souter, when you tighten things up if you were republicans and he saw what they did on the court? joan: there are many strains to republicanism. i would say that is what happened. rich h dubya bush pushed it back, george w. bush did that and certainly donald trump. -- george h w bush did that, george w. bush did that and certainly donald trump. they have very strong outside advisement will handle a lot of vetting. brett kavanaugh and neil gorsuch were heavily vetted. more so than john roberts. john roberts

he was samuel alito, now justice alito. i became sam's first assistant.y interesting cases, including the mayor of jersey city who was convicted of bank fraud and some other cases. when he went up to the court of appeals in 1990 as the first , sostant, i succeeded him that must have made me about 37 years old. david: what would the current hertoff tell that new michael chertoff? >> enjoy this because it is the best job you will ever have. it was the first job where there was a significant public dimension where you announced cases, where you had controversies. we had the infamous kidnapping of the exxon executive who was killed when some of his security people actually kidnapped him and locked him in a storage shed. maybe the most controversial was the chief judge of the state of new york, who was convicted of threatening his girlfriend in order to manipulate or into reinvigorating their relationship. he wound up pleading guilty. that was a very visible case. that were in new york shocked and not happy we were prosecuting him, that i had a very clear view

. >> dana: we saw what his views were when he was in the senate and samuel alito was there. he probably thinks he deserves an apology, too. >> if this. >> bob: -- if this becomes an apology tour, joe biden will not win. he needs to look forward and unify the party. i thought testify interesting on "the view" joe biden was semiapologizing. he wasn't say he owed her an apology, but he apologized for the way the whole clarence thomas hearings were handled. i don't know that that was a good look. i think you have to not get stuck in this mud. either apologize or get out of it. >> dana: we can talk all about that. the people that donated to his campaign, they must like what you see. $6.3 million raised in the first 24 hours raised. 97% of those under $200. we'll listen to your podcast. i already did this morning. here's a live look at times square, the east coast. we're getting soaked. it's a different story across the nation. some cities bracing for 100 degree temperature. others expecting snow. we had to bring in our chief meteorologist. he's tracking all of this for us because