unfortunately that is what most lead to him being the one that samuel bernard text to qualified. >> onemore image of samuel berger. the juxtaposition of civility. >> a prominent family in south carolina? >> host: sorry. south carolina, and floats to see. >> guest: i didn't say that. a lot of good people in south carolina. he was not one of those people. from a former slave holding family whose father was in the legislature, very prominent and his father was one of the south carolina legislators who led the protest of reconstruction in the lives of african american enslavement and they were determined to take back their country. where have we heard that before. they were determined to rollback all of the rights that african-americans had obtained after emancipation and samuel burner frisco's as a missionary. and to make a profit of that. >> it was funded by king of leopold's. paid agents. >> the scale of this activity the tendency when you hear these stories compartmentalized into good and evil as worn by the face or the name of an individual and these are not part of the systems of ids.