samuel johnson thought he was charming company and samuel johnson did not judge people lightly. but he saw as his duty to crush rebellion. his mother had said "george, be king" and when your mother tells you to be king, you be king. >> rose: (laughs) yeah. >> and he was still pretty young and the madness of king george, which we know about because there's a play or movie, that doesn't come for 20 years later. long after. >> rose: let me say this. this is history at the ground level. this is history on the battlefield. >> yes. >> rose: this is diaries from soldiers. >> yes. that's the real story i wanted to tell. >> rose: and you liked some of them. >> i liked them a lot. >> rose: hodgkin's. >> joseph hodgkin's, great, great guy. >> rose: your favorite character.q+<@6cj& >> ipswich shoe maker. i'm possible to fitch, too, from connecticut. >> rose: tell me about both of them. hodgkin's first. >> hopl kins was a shoe maker with children and wife at home named sarah to whom he wrote regularly. no matter what was happening. and they're wonderful letters and he talks about marching fo

>> so maybe samuel johnson said it best, you road to hell is paved with good intentions.d intentions but we forget that society is best organized as milton friedman said when it's organized in the interest of individuals pursuing their self-interest and not government coercion. >> yes. i have trouble sometimes getting people that disagree with that proposal to connect the dots between good intentions and outcomes. and a lot of them have no interest in looking at what the end results are. they like to feel virtuous on the front end and they just compartmentalize it or their brains are different or something. can you explain it? >> they forget about the back end, forget to unleash the productive enterprise of free markettes you need individuals working together. that's a far better way to organize society. milton friedman said it best as he always does, within he said, you know, when you spend your money on yourself you're very careful about how much you spend and what you spend it on, but when you send 134u7b else's money on someone else you don't care how much you spend a