and samuel romney, um, if we could talk about the did the security aspect to this. so we mentioned on the top there the risk of a spill over if this ah escalates into something beyond ukraine's borders. if that does happen, poland is likely to be very much in the eye of that storm. well, i think that there's certainly a grave risk of an accidental le escalation that drags poland into of a broader sense of conflict. because even though russia claims that his pivoted is military operation towards focusing on the liberation of don bass as the calls it said moving towards easton, ukraine. we've seen a continuation of strikes in western new grand strikes on oil depots, communications towers, as 300 ab air defense systems and factory emissions. factories inside levine and even as well as looks than one of those strikes recently had between 10 kilometers the polish border. who was not a conceivable that could be an accidental strike that brings poland into it. they've already had an errand, missiles drag that hit a target ship on the 1st day of the war. so that kind of acc

the kremlin was samuel romney. how do you see paula's role in this the, the longer this goes on? well, i see poland playing a increasingly decisive raul bulls in terms of bringing european countries together by a trilateral frameworks. i think the polish check republics lenient framework majority produced. a 10 point plan is one positive step. another is obviously the british polish ukrainian platform has also been created. that's another positive step. and given the fact that poland and britain are both vital got contributors to army ukraine, britain with the movement of n, l a. w is another anti tank weapons especially. and training po. busy acting using his borders as a conduit for it. those trilateral frameworks will be very important for polish ha, influence going forward in terms of policy that poll until we bring forward. there are several that i think that they'll be really trying to advance with particular vigor. one will probably be cutting the ab rushing banks off the remaining ones on from swift ads already support for that. inside the united states. we're seeing gym

and joining us from oxford in england, samuel romney an associate fellow at the royal united services institute. good to have your witness. so right. watching, if i could start with you since you are in war, so what, what, what's the mood in the country right now? what would be the significant roles that poland now finds itself in here? well, to start off with general, the bullish population has done a remarkable job in the government, in the hosting literally now millions. so we're seeing more people migrating or, or refugees all in all. and then we've seen refugee flows in this short span of time since world war 2. i think it's an important point. i, i, you mentioned a migrant on the bell rouge ordered. this is all part of the full operation that initiated last summer, that hybrid warfare attack against the bully order. those were migrants being used as against a stabilizing the border. and then also i military force are so that they can concentrate focus on their primary overall. generally the bulls are very, very ukrainian brothers, a see this existential prices for them, for ukra

and joining us from oxford in england, samuel romney, an associate fellow at the royal united servicestitute. good to have you with us. ray, what is the mood in poland? the significant role that poland finds itself in. ray: to start off, in general the polish population has done a , remarkable job in the government in hosting literally millions. so we're seeing more people uh migrating or refugees falling into poland than we've seen refugee flows in this short span of time since world war ii. i think it's an important point to highlight you mentioned the migrants on the belarus border this is all part of the full , operation that putin initiated last summer. that hybrid warfare attack against the polish border, those were migrants being used as weapons against poland, destabilizing the border, and then also tying up the military force so that they can't concentrate and focus on their primary mission. but overall generally the polls -- poles are very positive about what they're able to do to help their ukrainian brothers, they see this existential crisis for them for ukraine as an exist