my intent was to go m mansell, up san brunoo and east on paul. it end up selecting one block with some population, probably a couple of zdeno people and some freeway parcel. i also was interested in going to -- you wanted to do zero population stuff after. so i will hold the other part until later. if we could select the area east of san bruneo and paul in the southeast corner there. chairman mcdonnell: what are you solving for? >> it seemed it was an easier line to describe, san bruno, paul, bayshore. otherwise i think the description gets weird. mansell to a point, across the freeway and up. i am wondering what the population is here? >> that is a population of 84. it would bring the deviation for district 10 to negative .8%, and the deviation for district nine to 4.72%. >> all right. i would so propose. in general i think using streets where there are streets is better than not, and this uses streets better. that's all. not trying to pull some massive part out. >> what are we trying to do? chairman mcdonnell: if i may try to represent it, this