these are groups like the san diego minutemen, who have been known to do things like " blue lights on the top of their cars and cheese people -- chase people down the road to scare them. >> let's take this call from charles. caller: hello, sir. i am a former member of the organization. host: charles? let's move onto pristine on our line for independencts. pts. caller: you mentioned that he party and those set have not stepped over the edge, the effect that the people that are at risk -- de think these people are at risk of becoming members of the extreme right? >> i think we're seeing a great deal of mixing. i think it went -- i think when you look a that a party phenomenon, you cannot say that this is uniform like a radical right group. i think that is false. that said, if you look at them, and there are many streaks of conspiracy theories, racial feelings, sometimes real racist feelings, and other kinds of demonizing propaganda that have been absorbed from other groups. what i am saying is that, for instance, many people in the tea party movement have to absorb the conspiracy theory

these are goings like the san diego minutemen who have been known to snap blue lights and pretend to be cops and chase people down the road in order to scare would-be employs of the undocumented off. >> host: let's take a call out of mississippi. >> caller: hello, sir. i'm a former member of the organization, as you know, it was a very active -- >> host: charles. all right. let's move on to christine in west virginia. >> caller: hello. i have a question. you mention the tea parties earlier and some people on the extreme right that really haven't crossed over yet into the direct oppression and whatnot. do you think these people, you know, are at risk of becoming a member of the extreme right? >> guest: i think we're seeing a great deal of mixing of these groups and cross pollination. yeah, i think when you look at the tea party phenomenon, what you can't say is this is uniformly radical right-wing. i think that's false. that said, you look at them and there are many streaks or kind of veins of conspiracy theories, of racial feelings, sometimes real racist feelings and other kind of pr