for the iranians to know that throughout this entire process, and as i say, there may be some at san flows, but the unconditionalebbs and flows -- ebbs and flows, but the unconditional elements of this needs to be known. we have seen some internal fragmentation. >> i am from a neighboring area. the streets of teheran, tehran -- of iran, tehran, because the official figures to not seem to reflect the real level. and how the events going to develop? >> it is very, very difficult to have an actual headcount, because some of the victims' bodies are dragged to places that even their own families cannot recover them. that is also, perhaps, part of the contingency of the regime to hide as much as possible the number of the victims from public eye and public knowledge. it is difficult at this moment to give an actual headcount. the victims are numerous, not just in the main cities, but the provinces. not all the numbers have been reported by the media. i am not faulting the media -- it discuss you perhaps do not have access within iran to get such data. -- it is because you perhaps do not have acc