who wants to imagine kim jong il with nuclear weapons able to attack san francisco or los angeles?resident trump has said i'm telling you, this will not happen. he tried to persuade and said if you don't solve this, i will and you will like the way i solve i it. by striking north korea, there is a reasonable chance we see a sequence of events that nobody wants. at the end, you can see china and the u.s. killing each other in thousands of numbers. >> jon: we have to remember there are 30,000 u.s. troops in south korea. as you say, 1 million south koreans could be victims of an initial attack by the north. >> that's the estimate from the pentagon. it's been reviewed and examined for the past 15 years, as we come to a couple of these other crossroads earlier. the hard fact is and president trump pointed this out, each president has basically kicked the can down the road. he says he's not going to do that. >> jon: the can keeps getting more dangerous. >> unfortunately. maybe even in the next step, the capability to attack san francisco or los angeles with nuclear weapons. >> jon: sober

either kim jong-un will test the capability of delivering a nuclear bomb against san francisco or los angelesither, on the one hand. or the u.s. is going to attack north korea to prevent that happening, which of course we can do, and which secretary mattis talked about. so that's round 1. what happens in round 2? as secretary mattis said, in round 2, north korea likely attacks south korea, the capitol, with artillery, and they can kill a million people in 24 hours. then what do we do for round 3? we probably attack all of the artillery and all of the rockets and all of the missiles and there we go. so we would be back in the second korean war. in the first korean war, 50,000 americans died fighting chinese. >> graham ellison, it is a very sobering conversation. thank you for being with us. happy father's day. and thank you to the millions of fathers who influence the world every single day. next is "meet the press." until. a line of the world's best hot dogs. we removed the added nitrates and nitrites waved goodbye to by-products. and got rid of the artificial preservatives in all of our meat

and hostile, bellicose anti-american , with the capacity to deliver a nuclear weapon to los angeles or san franciscor any other american city to how could any american president go to the american people and say we will just live with these crazy people and yes they can kill us that after, we will kill all of like it does not seem is politically viable. mark: it is not something any american president will ever say . i do not think there are other alternatives. other alternatives is to get china and russia to apply enough pressure on north korea appeared up till today, they have been reluctant to do. 21968y: let's pivot south and we are pivoting back in time. i wonder if this book, in researching the book, it helped you understand the limitations of american power, the limits that we have been trying to persuade regimes we don't like from behaving in ways we do not want to see them behave? the nominee is the classic example of limitations on military power. we were superior in the -- a military force and yet, we were not able to use the force to accomplish the goal we set for ourselves. the goal was

, bellicose anti-american regime with the capacity to deliver your a nuclear weapon to los angeles or san francisco any other american city. how could any american president go to the american people and say we will just live with these crazy people and yes they can kill us, but after they kill us, we will kill all of them? that does not seem like a politically viable -- mark: it is not something any american president will ever say, but i think that is where we will end up because i don't think there are any other alternatives. other alternatives is to get china and russia to apply enough pressure on north korea. which come up until today, they have been reluctant to do. jeffrey: let's give it south, if hue, 1968, pivoting back in time. i wonder if this book, in researching the book, it helped you understand the limitations of american power, the limits that we have trying to dissuade regimes be don't like from behaving in ways we do not want to see them behave? mark: vietnam is the classic example of limitations on military power. we were in overwhelmingly superior military force and yet, we were

korean minds they believe that if they can threaten the united states if they can threaten los angeles or san francisco with a nuclear attack, it will create hesitation on the part of the united states if they were called on defending south korea. they can threaten all u.s. installations and cities in japan, including tokyo, they will create in their own minds some hesitation on the part of japan to allow the united states to flow forces through japanese logistics nodes in defense of the korean peninsula. you have to remember that in north korea had, the world for north korea is very small. it's about survival, of course. but north koreans don't really care about climate change. they don't really care about global governance. they don't really care about responsible overseas development, assistance policies in africa. right? they don't really care about fragile and conflict afflicted states. they don't really care. the only thing they care about is their survival and dominance of the korean peninsula. those are the only two things that they care about. so while this idea, this theory i'm putting forwar

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the foreseeable future, that is next year or maybe even sooner but not four years from now on his current path be able to attack san francisco and los angeleswith the nuclear weapon. that's on the one hand. on the other hand, president trump said this is never going to happen. first tweet we heard at the hand from president obama when he was president elect. he went out instantly and tweeted, never going to happen and he continues to say, he'll not going to let this happen. so you have two railroad trains going right towards unless one of them diverts. tell the chinese, make sure the guy diverts. if you didn't get him to divert when he was building nuclear weapons, you didn't get him to divert when he was able to attack japan with nuclear weapons and now you're telling us that attack you and i have to solve this problem, so i would say, this is the train wreck to watch for. >> right there. >> barry wood, rtha in hong kong . i won't say that. how does japan fit into this equation both in terms of japan-china relations and now it fits with the united states? >> you'll get the last one. >> on japan, one of the fascinating differences and not -

san francisco, anne makevoc, kpix 5. >>> a new report says that one california city has the worst drivers in the country. i'm surprised by this. it's not in the bay area or los angeles. it's sacramento. quote wizard crunched numbers and looked at the number of accidents speeding tickets, du i wants and citations. a lot of drivers in sacramento don't believe it. >> i won't say where in the midwest that i lived but they were running stop signs, stop lights, there were always collisions. and i don't find that to be here in sacramento. >> for the record, los angeles is number 6 on the list. this is what surprised me. bay area is number 13. i thought it would be at least be in the top five but no. so you live in sacramento, jaclyn. >> i was a traffic reporter in sacramento. >> oh, yeah. >> i'm not surprised at all. i think there's bad drivers anywhere? you know, i mean there's always some. but the thing i found most annoying was people would go below the speed limit on the freeway. >> oh, yeah. >> that's impeding traffic and that can be just as dangerous as speeding. >> of course. >> my mom does that all the time . >> all of a sudden you get frustrate and look around why

or specific threat here in the united states. officials and police departments across the country are echoing that sentiment. as you mentioned, new york city and other big cities like los angeles and san franciscodents to remain vigilant, are asking them, telling them not to be alarmed if they see an increase in security, police presence. here's what new york city mayor bill de blasio had to say. >> when incidents occur such as the one in london last night, we put our special units such as a critical response command, on key duty at locations around the city, particularly well traveled, particularly prominent, all relate to the attack that was undertaken. that means new yorkers today will see a heavier presence at key locations around the city. you will see a stronger police presence including our counter-ter are forces. >> martin, this is not something unusual, this is something we have seen far too often unfortunately in recent years. >> you're right about that. we also know people take to social media to communicate. a lot of celebrities have been talking about this as well? >> that's exactly right. we have had tweets from oprah and mariah carey offering condolences and the we also had tweet