the doctor says here martinez in san ignacio laguna mexico together with his team where whales breed. he's been coming here for the last 15 years to monitor them as part of the laguna son ignacio echo system science program. i asked him why the drug phenomenal c m i, and seems to me that i, you know, like when there's a phenomenon called skinny well in which you start seeing that their body condition is getting worse. getting thinner. it's because they're not getting enough food. and from the middle of 2018, the phenomenon started happening. it peaked in 2020, when 30 percent of the whales were in that condition and all the whales feet in the arctic on shrimp like creatures could empty boats that they'd dig for in the mud. indications are the supplies running low climate change could be involved, but there's also precedent to this in the late 19 eighties. and again in 1999, there was a big drop in whale numbers. scientists believe that there is a natural tough point in the number of gray whales, so every system can support when they reach that point, the number goes down and then it s