if you look at, you know, the bay delta water quality plan applied to the tributaries of the san joaquin river, nobody else has a pending requirement like that. so we have this unique situation that we have to deal with. i suppose the city of modesto would have to deal with it to some extent as well, as well as oakdale. and they're not facing the growth issues we're facing. they probably have a different take on it overall for various different reasons. >> the state wouldn't put specific guidelines in the template? >> no. >> right. >> we have to make it up ourselves. >> thank you. commissioners, anything else? any public comment on this item? thank you very much. and good luck on thursday. i'll be eager to hear what the questions are and what the responses are. our next item, please, madam secretary. >> item 11 is new commission business. >> any commissioners, new business. i'm assuming no public comment. >> item 12 is a consent calendar. considered to be routine by the san francisco public utilities commission. only acted upon by a sing vote of the commission. no separate discussion until the

town, when he went to the city of stockton and you are near the confluence of her only two big rivers, san joaquinnd sacramento. we want to build a port, a rail station. why do that? on top of that, i need a significant amount of land, and they said no, we are not going to do that. just south of stockton, the name of jenny's family so they named it after his in-laws and stockton. >> he opened his own fairy line too. and in the bay. >> real charming guy. >> a very successful businessman. >> anyone putting scrutiny on any of this at the time. >> the federal government tried to do this with this long investigation. but it's a generation after that because if it wasn't for leland stanford or the railroads you would have no steel barons like carnegie because carnegie's fortune was largely made, you would have had no standard rail because without those rail lines rockefeller would not have have closed those market. this was a situation where we are not living in a free market adam smith world anymore. we are living a different kind of world, hence the progressive movement began in california and the mid