important thing that you said was that alliance had conducted recent searches in marin, san mateo, san josement i know having those relationships and having a pool of talent in the area is really important. to me that's, like, the single most weighty issue is to have a firm that has recent experience with this and also those established relationships, they've been looking at qualified people in the area. >> looking at this list here, it looks like bob murray's placements have largely been in the central valley, while alliance's has been in the bay area. >> the gentleman that's assigned to this from bob murray is the same gentleman -- pam, correct me -- who was assigned to the last director. i believe that's the same. we checked that on the brochure, right? >> i think bob murray worked directly, but i don't know. >> it's on the brochure there. just, you know, a point i know his background is in police and fbi and this kind of thing but he did do the last search the last time, the same gentleman. anyhow. >> i just wanted to say both firms could do the work but i would like to just say i concur wi