all my time at san quentin. >> sounds like doing time at san quentin. >> yes.g to see a lot of chaos. this place is loud. there's still violence. you're going to see a lot of things that you're not necessarily going to see on the streets. you come in here, you need to be prepared to adjust your mentality to be able to maintain your sanity. >> is it hard to go home and let this all go? >> you definitely have to have an outlet. it's not easy, but you've got to have one. >> having an outlet seems to be the key for employees and inmates alike. one has gotten so good on the inside that it's gotten him attention on the outside. get ready to meet the hottest financial adviser. >> tell me your name. >> curtis carol but everyone calls me "wall street." >> there's the government name and what everybody calls you. why do they call you wall street? >> 11 or 12 years ago i had a financial literacy class at another institution i was at. >> how do you know all this stuff? >> my cell mate at that time used to read different publications to me. i didn't know how to read at the

public officers of san quentin. i'm glad you could come in eer experience the world. know know when you step into prison it is a different feeling than on the other side of the walls. >> this feels like a community college. >> this is the worst of the worst in the state of california. >> this is the worst inmates in the state of california. >> the worst inmates in the state of california. >> i feel like i shouldn't be pointing. >> well, they're not coming out this way. >> yes, san quentin houses california's only death row inmates. yet it is the prison inmates want to get transferred to because it has the highest number of rehab programs by far. and it's also a level 2 prison. see, prison security levels range from level 1, think like martha stewart, to level 4, like real episode of o oz. it used to be level 4 but was changed to level 2. i have to say, it wasn't what i was expecting. i thought bewould turn the corner and there would be several gates and i would be strip-searched. >> do we need to? >> no, you do not.

in san quentin.fficers gather in the courtyard for a briefing regarding recent assaults they feel may be related. so they've organized an extensive cell search for hidden, makeshift weapons. >> this is how we're going to do it. we're going to do a search line right there in the rotunda. >> come on down. >> pat them all down. have them take off their shoes. they might be packing on the way in here. they'll be searched and fed. >> after breakfast, the inmates are moved to the yards where they will stay until officers can complete their search. >> we're looking for makeshift weapons. bed spreads, anything with razors. anything they can slash these guys with or even stab them with. >> the operation is broken up into several two-person teams. >> i guess i'll get the top, huh? >> you get the top. you're the tall guy. >> officers, david hamilton and meagan mcgee each have years of experience at second-guessing where inmates like to hide contraband. >> okay. i found two razors that were removed. the blades w

>> i've been here 22 years now. >> 22 years, in san quentin? >> in san quentin.ntin. >> if you've been here 22 years, it's almost like you are doing time in san quentin. >> yeah. you're going to see chaos. it's loud, you'll see a lot of violence. you'll see things you're not necessarily going to see on the streets. when you're in here, you have to be prepared, just your mentality, to be able to maintain your sanity. >> is it hard to go home and let this all go? >> you definitely have to have an outlet. it's not easy, but you've got to have an outlet. >> having an outlet seemed like the key for inmates and employees alike, and one prisoner's gotten so good at his outlet on the inside that it has gotten him attention from the outside. get ready to meet america's hottest and most unlikely financial adviser. tell me your name. >> my name is curtis carroll, but everyone calls me wall street. >> yeah, because in prison, there's the government name and there's what people call you. >> yeah. >> so, why do they call you wall street? >> 11, 12 years ago, i developed a fina

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san quentin state prison. our cameras spent months documenting life on the inside where gangs, drugs, and sheer boredom make up a violent mix. this is "lock up: san quentin: extended stay." >> they treat us like animals in here. >> don't let me catch you up in here. this ain't no regular penitentiary. it's the hole, man. >> basically, it's the same thing every day, you know? you sit in your cell. sleep in your cell. >> strip out right now. >> get down! >> yeah. >> as long as i keep busy, then i'll be all right. but the second i'm at a standstill, i don't know what to do and i'm looking for something to do, i'm going to get myself in a wreck. i'm going to get in trouble. >> pacing back and forth, two or three hours at a time. everyone here is like animals. back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. nothing happens. so it's like one day goes into another. and the next thing you know, weeks go by, months go by, years go by. >> a new day begins at san quentin. >> good morning, gentlemen. >> how are you doing?

this is "lockup: san quentin, extended stay." san quentin state prison served as the reception center for 17 counties in the state of california. each week, the prison releases 150 prisoners. and welcomes 350 new inmates. san quentin was built to hold about 3,000 people. it currently houses more than 5,000. >> unfortunate for some of them, they think this is a step up. in the circles they travel in, unfortunately, it is. you know, i made it. i'm in state prison now. >> with repeat offenders clogging up the works, the officers struggle to keep the inmates under control. >> control, be advised we have an alarm in south block. >> i can only speculate and the only thing i can think of is we have a missing inmate. that's probably the number one thing. >> step on the tiers and conduct a count, submit it to patrol immediately. >> 5-west-45, hernandez. i don't know where he is. >> his name is skanvinsky hymes. my prison number is e-04448. i've had this prison number since i was 18 years old. i just turned 37 on february 15th. i'll be dis

>> among theation's most notorious institutions, san quentin state prison. our cameras spent months documenting life on the inside where gangs, drugs and sheer boredom make up a violent mix. this is "lockup: san quentin, extended stay." >> in america's prisons, violence is a way of life. san quentin, the oldest prison in california, has one of the longest histories of violence. >> there's fistfights going on, there's guys getting beat up pretty good. >> whether it's an inmate fresh off the street -- >> i refuse to get disrespected by anybody. >> a gang dropout in protective custody. >> it happened a couple of days ago so -- >> or an officer trying to maintain order. >> he was going for the jugular but he just missed. >> they've all fallen victim to violent attacks. in the three months we were at san quentin, we saw our fair share. ♪ for the ruler of all evil i pray to god i don't die for the wrong people ♪ >> administrative segregation, otherwise known as ad seg, is a unit mainly reserved for the worst of the worst offenders at san quentin. >> it's a place w

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but san quentin had one program designed to discourage troubled teens. from ever joining its ranks in the future. through the squires program, selected inmates shared their experiences with teenagers who had already had run-ins with the law. >> what we need you to understand, you are in san quentin this morning. you are in a place that no kid should ever want to be in. you should be out playing somewhere in the park. but you're here because of something you did. >> what's your first name? >> angel. >> angel? >> yeah. >> how old are you? >> 13. >> miguel, i'm 16. >> jonathan, i'm 16, too. >> what you want to know, that this is your life, man. you have an opportunity to leave out of this place and never come back. >> let me introduce myself to you guys. my name's david. i'm about to be 25 years old in a few more months, but i have been in prison since i was 15 years old for murder. >> david monroe is serving a 15-year-to-life sentence after having pled guilty to second degree murder. >> i banged before. i have been on the streets before. i'm from stockton.

a brand new correctional officer here at san quentin.onner. >> this officer is a member of the investigative services unit, an elite team of c.o.s who track gang activity and other threats to the institution. >> one night my partner and i were working graveyard. i was sitting with my back to a file cabinet just like this. there was a row of padlocks on the top handle. my partner and i were talking, all of a sudden, the locks started rattling back and forth together, clacking. he looked at it. i looked at it. see, i'm getting goose bumps just thinking about it. we both ran out of the office. we had no explanation as to what that was. we asked some other officers and they said that, you know, the unit is probably haunted. so never can tell. there was no explanation for it. there was no earthquake. the inmates weren't complaining in the unit about the ground moving. there were no wild animals in there. i didn't bump it. he didn't bump it. so no telling. >> there's been a history of other strange phenomena here as well. >> this is san quenti

at california's san quentin state prison.inmates are much more concerned with filing appeals than causing trouble. that's not the case here. [ alarm sounding ] >> me, myself, i consider every inmate in here a potential threat. >> our producer met two officers assigned to keep watch in the adjustment center, where san quentin's most violent death row inmates are housed. the daily grind here is bleak for both inmates and staff. >> mentality of most inmates in this unit is, i'm on death row, there's nothing you can do to me. if i assault you today, there's nothing you can do to me tomorrow. you can only kill me once. >> assaults are so common here, any contact with inmates even serving meals requires officers to suit up in full riot gear. >> but that doesn't stop them from gassing. which is where they throw a variety of substances, can be anything, urine, feces. >> any time you open the food port, there's an opening for that inmate to assault you. >> death row at san quentin is a really scary place and the adjustment center is t

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. >> at california's san quentin state prison, we saw how sophisticated some inmate weaponry can be.his homemade pistol is known as a zip gun. >> this portion is filled with ground up matchheads. the two holes here, inmates insert a wick. the inmate takes a plunger, pokes shrapnel in the open end, pieces of metal, ground up zippers. when the target walks by the cell, be it an officer or an inmate, the inmate lights this, it goes down, strikes the match heads, basically acts like a firecracker and shoots the shrapnel out. >> the majority of inmate manufactured weapons or shanks are designed for slashing or stabbing. the ease with which lethal weapons are made is shocking. this san quentin inmate who goes by the name speedy agreed to show correctional staff and "lockup" cameras just how simple it can be. he starts by using a roll of toilet paper as a crude forge to melt plastic coffee cup lids. >> i'm making a weapon right now. melting this plastic down into a shape. what i'm doing is trying to get a wad of it to where i can -- i have something to work with. you know what i mean? what

what's happening in san quentin isn't just in san quentin. these are the kinds of violations or forms of violence that are national and international in implication and that very same issue of debating someone's character as a way to did he deserve this in some way, did he invite this on, that becomes the dominant narrative in some ways. you had a lot of people inspired by him saying here is this hero, this martyr. but you have governor reagan writing op-ed's a week later a and george jackson was a gangster and if we don't deal , we these problem people are all going to be prisoners. and the we in question is significant because it's clearly not about george jackson. it's clearly not about the kind of community george jackson comes from. this idea about what these deaths mean continue to show the reverberations of mass incarceration not only as policy but also as a matter of discourse. as a way we make sense of human life in our society. >> there are no restrictions? i read an article about a journalist who snuck a people's history of the uni

and the staff here call me bird man of san quentin.he first day i got here at san quentin, the birds seemed to have flocked to me for some reason. and i don't know, they probably think i'm the bird man of alcatraz. maybe they're mistaken because he had a shaved head, too. >> miller was serving an eight-year sentence for burglary when he proudly showed us his cell. a virtual shrine to his winged friends. >> ever since i've been here the birds just come up to me like they know me. you know, i got them landing on my shoulders and my hands. you know, different kinds of birds, not just pigeons. but i got the, you know, the different kinds of black birds like finch and the redwing. landing on me. i think the birds is a good way of releasing a lot of tension and anger. before i got arrested my girlfriend used to chase the birds away. she didn't want me around them. and so, when i'm in here i have a chance to mingle with the birds. and basically that's about the only friend i got is the birds. you know, i can't trust anybody else. ♪ booking.co

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. >> duck, what would surprise you on the outside of being in san quentin. >> the name itself is nottive people. some come here, couldn't read, write, spell, you walk around they're geniuses now. >> since you don't have cell phones you need somebody walking around whose nickname is wikipedia. >> other than that we'd be numbers on the yard. >> how many years do you have? >> 70. i'm on my 40th year. >> wow. >> wow, same thing i say every time i get up in the morning. >> i was hoping you were going to say 6 1/2. >> no. >> sounds unfair, sounds like if you're able to live here and sit here and we're talking. >> because they call this rehabilitation so if you have been rehabilitated you get to a spot like this, there should be some rewards at the end of the game. but it don't seem to be that way. >> watch "united shades of america" at 10:00 eastern here on cnn. >> that will do it for us. >> "inside politics" with john king starts now. >>> is this the ticket? >> you deserve to know exactly where a candidate stands. >> ted cruz bets it all on indiana. donald trump calls it desperate and loo

it's because san quentin has the most rehab programs.rking on their job skills and life skills to prepare themselves to be paroled from prison. they are not that optimistic about it. >> your show and a lot of your comedy pokes fun at race and politics and issues that can be uncomfortable to talk about. i want to ask your opinion as a comedian about president obama's final white house correspondents' dinner and jokes like this one. let's watch. >> although while in england i did have lunch with mer majesty the queen. took in a performance of shakespeare. hit the links with david cameron. just in case anybody is still debating whether i'm black enough, i think that settles the debate. >> even poked fun at prince george. so what was your reaction when you u >> i mean i'm a little bit worried that he's going to get into comedy full time, frankly. he's one of america's greatest comedians. >> he could be a pettecompetito. >> that says it all. w. kamau bell, thank you so much for that. don't forget w. kamau bell takes you inside san quentin on

one of the country's most famous prisons located in san quentin, california.d out more about the inmates and prison and the culture. i'm looking around and see different groups of people in different areas. are the areas broken up? >> they are broken up in a way. beyond the tennis court where the white guys are. there are a couple of different areas for those guys and basketball court, that's primarily where all of the african-americans are. flz an area of land behind us near the shack where the pizas, hispanic inmate, not californian, so to speak. and northern hispanic, there's an area where they are at. the yard is segregated based upon those underground rules. >> okay. >> it seems like the black guys got the basketball court, no surprise there. if you're a white guy who wants to play basketball, is it not recommended you go over there? i mean, do they got a good jump shot? >> you may feel that way and it may not feel these guys have an issue with you but the guys that tlook like you may have an issue with you coming over here. >> is there a effort to create

i was released from san quentin just yesterday. described as a combination pit bull and bloodhound. he's a relentless tracker determined to get his man. but he's overworked. >> uh, sir, it appears to be truth. he was locked up during the robberies. >> in a rush to judgment, hume has gotten the wrong man. ♪ >> hume catches other guys, but he can't catch black bart. he's just too smart. >> it ain't him. >> and all this makes hume more determined, "i'm going to catch this guy." >> it ain't him! >> sir! sir! we got him, sir. >> who? bart? >> yes, sir. >> show me. show me! >> charles boles, a.k.a. black bart... >> excuse me, sir. >> ...is proving to be an elusive bandit, and james hume is taking it personally. [ horse neighs ] returning to his gentlemanly ways and scouting his next strike, boles overhears talk of a coach that'll be carrying $23,000. >> this meal was excellent. i hope you enjoyed -- >> no, no, let me get -- >> no, no, no, no. i insist. please. when you hit your mother lode of gold, you can pick up the check, my friend. >

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. >> jones' homecoming anything but easy after doing time at san quentin. he how medical problems. his son has had to quit his job to care for him and didn't receive much medical information from the prison department. >> they didn't tell me information, how he takes his meds or everything. >> jones says he appreciates how his family is taking care of him and wants the money for him and his ten children. >> can it still be a happy life for you? not really happy. but more so enjoyable. >> the payment to luther jones still must be approved by the state legislature and the governor. and we are told that should be a formality. >> it makes you angry thinking 20 years of his life taken away. he looks frail. can he even walk by himself or is he under the care of his son? >> under the care of his son and he goes to a rehab center. interesting when he went to prison he was strapping 250 250- pound man and he got sick and deteriorated to the condition he is in now. >> why now after all of these years did the girl speak out? >> she grew up. she was ten years old when she testified and now she

. >> stanley has been on san quentin death row 32 years, what his case says about our brokin death penaltyp tonight. >>> a loss for yahoo leads bay area business watch. the company is about to lose a partnership with at&t that lasted 15 years, involving yahoo search and branding in at&t products. the end of the partnership won't change anything for people with an at&t e-mail account, hosted by yahoo. yahoo stock gained about 2.5%. the dow added nine points, nasdaq lost 8.5 points. the power ball jumped to $415 million, the biggest prize since january when the jackpot reached $1.5 billion, do you remember that? the next drawing is saturday night. >> linkedin hosted a cinco de mayo event that didn't have anything to do with partying, it focused on increasing the number of latino voters. the focus is on millennials. so far, getting them to cast a ballot has been a challenge. >> they're a majority and need to wake up. 41% of our voters go out to vote >> well, you ne doing battle at the dmv is a fight we're familiar with. one man needed help to win his. >> how michael finney got involved and go

. >>> now to an investigation from the i-team's dan noyce, a killer on san quentin's death row for 32 years is offering to reveal where he buried one of his wives. in return, gerald stanley wants the state to set an execution date. his case exposes the serious flaws in our death penalty system. dan noyce will have the exclusive report tomorrow at 11:00. >>> tonight we have learned bay area congressman mark detall nay has cancer but plans to run again. the 64-year-old democrat that represents parts of contra costa county announced today he has leukemia, but is responding to treatment. he says he plans to fight for more funding to fight cancer and improve accessibility to costly drugs to those who can't afford them. coming up at 6:00, the congressman talks about his battle. >>> sorry warriors fans, steph curry's ailing knee will likely sideline him for another game. head coach steve kerr says curry probably won't play in game three saturday night against the trail blazers in portland. curry was able to lift weights today but did not practice with the team. >> he did get on the floor on

. >> stanleyas been on san quentin death row 32 years, what his case says about our brokin death penaltycoming up tonight. >>> a loss for yahoo leads bay area business watch. the company is about to lose a partnership with at&t that lasted 15 years, involving yahoo search and branding in at&t products. the end of the partnership won't change anything for people with an at&t e-mail account, hosted by yahoo. yahoo stock gained about 2.5%. the dow added nine points, nasdaq lost 8.5 points. the power ball jumped to $415 million, the biggest prize since january when the jackpot reached $1.5 billion, do you remember that? the next drawing is saturday night. >> linkedin hosted a cinco de mayo event that didn't have anything to do with partying, it focused on increasing the number of latino voters. the focus is on millennials. so far, getting them to cast a ballot has been a challenge. >> they're a majority and need to wake up. 41% of our voters go out to vote now. >> well, you ne doing battle at the dmv is a fight we're familiar with. one man needed help to win his. >> how michael finney got in

but i said to him afterawards, he said i have been watching you when i came into the san quentin. he said i have been watching you, rose. i said what do you mean. he said well, you're on tv. i see you. at the end. broadcast, at the end of the taping i said to him are you going to watch. this he said no, i just did it. >> that's interesting. because i feel that way. >> rose: what is the role of podcast in the future of social media? >> i mean are we going to see a lot more. for example, david axelrod. >> yeah. >> rose: has a popular podcast. not popular in your league but popular. >> well, i think that it gives everybody, it is sort of a wild frontier right now. everybody can really do one. everybody has access to the technology. it's very easy and you can post it fairly easily. but like anything else, i think that there is niche markets, you know, and people will find the good ones or find the things that apply to their lives. but there is also like podcasts that are very niche which is like four listeners. and i don't know how long they will remain. but-- the good ones will find

george jackson is experiencing watts from san quentin. he seeing the rise of the black panther party from inside a prison. because he is paying attention to the world and reading and writing he's leading classes on political education. during classes on martial arts. he becomes known throughout the prison system. everyone tells people you have to meet this guy george jackson. huey newton helps george jackson get an attorney. what brings these three guys together is that a guard shot and killed three black prisoners in the yard. in response to that, they investigate and say was justifiable. someone beat up and killed a guard. a different guard. widely seen as retaliation. they were charged for that. what becomes interesting, what jackson's lawyer sees, the kind of force and power of his statements. there is a larger problem. of racism happening here. he is such as the skate analyst of it. he helps bring his letters together. a certain kind of patient zero for mass incarceration. we think about proms we see in the prison system as a whole,

it was forged by inmate welders at san quentin from 1952. of the jails in prison that offer vocational trading, welding has always been aamong the most common about. 20 miles south of sacramento's downtown jail sits its branch facility. it's here inmate welders carry on the tradition. >> you get that 9:00 to 5:00 job feeling like you're back on the streets working a job. i've been on a hiatus the last ten years doing nothing. at 52, i guess it's time i start doing what i should have probably been doing years ago. >> overton is serving one year on his laters conviction, possession of a firearm by a felon. >> i haven't been in this jail since '90 something. i thought i would never see the inside of this one again. >> he served time in jail several times over the past 25 years on multiple counts of forgery, identity theft and drug possession. >> i've got the experience of welding. keep a job and get money put away finally instead of screwing around like an idiot like i have been a few years. >> the more experienced inmates take on jobs for outs

. >> to making jewelry, to making soap, to a private tour of the cal decot tunnel, a tour of san quentinne night we did a competition called chopped just like the tv show on food network where we got to go grocery shopping and we had certain items and had to make a dish out of them and there was judging for best presentation. >> i've had a lot of favorite nights out but one of the most repeat was ice skating. i haven't laughed that hard like pe my pasts kind of laughter. >> some they could do without. >> the least favorite of mine hands down was when we learned how to knit. >> my least favorite was we went to a shooting range and i did not enjoy holding a gun. >> but they do it all together. >> we do things other than just going to dinner and having cocktails even though that's great, too. if i was left to my own devices i probably wouldn't be playing basketball. >> it was a commitment that had taken them on the journey. >> i don't think anybody would imagine we'd be doing it many years later. >> life is throwing them many curve balls. >> the closest to missing was when i had my two kids

. >> killer on san quentin death row for 32 years.ere he buried one of his wife's. in return jerrold stanley wants the state to set an execution date. his case exposes the serious flaw in our death penalty system. dan has been investigating and be sure to watch the exclusive report tonight on 7 news just press clean and let roomba help with your everyday messes. a full suite of sensors automatically guides roomba throughout your home. cleaning under furniture, along edges and in corners. and with its powerful three-stage cleaning system roomba picks up pet hair, dust and debris for up to 2 hours, recharging itself when it needs to. which means your floors are always clean. is sz so. k>]m in southern california. suspect0t wanted for attempted murder is pair indicateded in5 his car totally shutting down a mainlymz highway. >> more swat vehicle brought in. they just used a device tov; smash in a window. you can actually see them g on it there and this is a live look now. >> you should have seen the scene earlier weaving in and out of t

." >>> the number of units here at san quentin has grown beyond the capacity of this prison and what. >> free us. free us. >> i took sociology in college. and you can stack a bunch of rats together. eventually they t

. >> has to be at san quentin. this changes that. they can be -- the department of corrections can put wherever they deem appropriate and yes double cell them and put them with other murderers out there. >> ultimately, this will go to the voters. a random sam whomg are not so sure about speeding the process up. >> i would have thought one of the big worries about death penalty at all is the possibility for error, convicting the wrong person. >> or keeping the death penalty. >> i'd like to get rid of the death penalty and anything that would help i would support. >> reporter: there will, in fact, be two measures on the ballot this november for us californians to vote on. again, one to abolish the death penalty and one to change it. reporting live in san mateo, scott budman, nbc bay area news. >> thank you, scott. we continue to follow that breaking news. the shakeup in the police department in san francisco. t forced resignation of police chief greg suhr. we'll take you where protesters are making new demands. >>> closure for a famili

charlie: why do you go to san quentin and talk to him? would you do it? would you like to do it? you be interested in it? mark: yes, i would. he is an old which. charlie: he is more than that. maybe you and i differ, but i want to reach out to people and find them and say, how about let's do this? you are so casual about it. mark: manson is sort of a difficult get, charlie. albert brooks is -- charlie: i do, too. mark: he may be more difficult to get than early mansion -- then charlie manson. charlie: are you being serious now? mark: it is been difficult. when i ask somebody --t, they say, one hour, and they say, 15 minutes, and i ask for one hour, and they say they can't talk about anything interesting a one hour, but i said, trust me. mark: yes, just say you're in control. charlie: and the people can be honest, i -- do -- not -- want -- 2 -- talk -- about it. mark: do you ever have people say, i don't want that in their? charlie: -- there? charlie: they may say it is boring, you can talk about whatever you want to, -- you have got it in the can, has anyone ever said, can you no

. >>> a killer on san quentin's death row for 32 years is offering to tell where he buried one of histurn gerald stanley wants the state to set an execution date. his case exposes the serious flaws in our death penalty system. be sure to watch our exclusive report at 11. >>> a dallas judge today ordered former cleveland browns quarterback johnny manziel to stay away from an ex-girlfriend he's accused of salting. the heisman trophy winner was in court for less than 15 minutes. rt judge says manziel couldn't contact the 23-year-old woman he was indicted after the ex-girlfriend said manziel hit her and also threatened to kill her. >>> a controversial tweet encouraging women to use their looks to get ahead. coming up, shark tank star barbara corchoran is standing by her view. why she says it's the key to success. >>> i'm spencer christian. weather conditions seem a bit quiet right now, but dark clouds are still hanging around and we have chances for showers and thunder. i'll have the that's a good lookin' pile of dirt. yeah. it's nature's care. what's in it? lots of rich, moist organic th

charlie: why don't you go to san quentin and talk to him? i would. who do i talk to?ut me in touch with manson? charlie: [laughter] would you do it? would you like to do it? would you be interested in it? marc: yes, i would. he is an old which. charlie: he is more than that. maybe you and i differ, but i want to reach out to people and find them and say, how about let's do this? you are so casual about it. marc: manson is sort of a difficult get, charlie. i'm more focus on -- focused on albert brooks. he might be more difficult to get than charlie manson. he knows i want to talk to him. charlie: are you being serious now? you have not been able to talk to him? marc: i think he just doesn't want to do one hour interview. charlie: i get a little bit of that also. 50 minutes is fine, but an hour, i can't carry in our. there's not that's -- in one hour. there is that much interesting stuff in an hour. but i said, trust me. marc: and the next phase is, well maybe there are things i don't want to talk about. [laughter] charlie: just say, you are in control. just say, i do n

after doing time in san quentin and a number of the state penitentiary's, jones was released with a hostf medical problems that include hepatitis c and liver and kidney failure. his son has had to quit his job to care for him. he received almost no information from the printed -- prison medical staff. >> they didn't tell me the last time he took his meds, they didn't tell me how he takes his meds. none of that stuff. >> reporter: jones says he appreciates how his family has embraced him. he doesn't want the money from his injustice for himself, but for his six children and 10 grandchildren. >> could it still be a happy life for you? >> not really happy. but more so enjoyable. >> reporter: lake county, rob roth, ktvu fox 2 news. >>> still to come here, a high school softball team with an unlikely fan club. the special bond between a 95- year-old woman and livermore high's lady cowgirl softball players. before earning enough cash back from bank of america to buy a new gym bag. before earning 1% cash back everywhere, every time and 2% back at the grocery store. even before he got 3% back on

with well over 700 - inmates awaiting execution at san quentin. >> pam:lawyers are once again pointing the finger at gary condit. in the death of chandra levy. levy disappeared back in 2001. and the story took off after she was linked to the california congressman. >> pam:condit was considered a prime suspect in her death. but eventuall, y investigators ruled out his role. >> pam:another man. ingmar guandique. was convicted of killing levy in 2010. >> pam:however, he was granted a retrial last year, after concerns were raised about one of the government's witnesses. >> pam:his attorneys say, they have evidence they will present at the new trial this october, which will point once again, to condit as the culprit. >> pam:the hiker who disappered in the donner summit over the weekend has been found this afternoon. >> pam: coming up at six! are you missing mail? that's of milk was discarded and the support system. coming up! >> pam: we are filing break the news out of san francisco as the police chief, greg suhr resigned. (scal): good day, m'lady! i am sir-can-a-lot, here to save you from

caller: i work at san quentin for decades and i noticed that human nature seems to dominate everythingyou can have roles and procedures, but human nature dominates everything. with theproblem i had freddie gray, michael brown there is zero accountability for the individuals' actions. you cannot blame the justice system for that. host: james in missouri, good morning. caller: i just wanted to comment on what the gentleman just said in regards to how things are toward the money factor. it is pretty evident. it is obvious when you turn on the news, you see what is going on. people being indicted, knowing they are guilty of a charge and they get time off, probation, where a common person of middle unjustifiable.st ,s far as the freddie gray case all of them cannot be totally guilty of the murder of that man , but there is one person that should be accountable. that is all i have to say. host: we will get back to more of your thoughts. in other news, this is from the washington post. sanders picks will help shape the party platform. bernie sanders was given unprecedented say in a move that