that i think causes them to embrace a life of being like don quixote and such upon as a -- and sancho panza. when you have done everything to get something back and it is not want to work, you are free to act. there is no end in sight. it is a journey. they go for broke. part of it probably is they do not really mind failure because they have had enough failure. tavis: they are both unlicensed? >> yes. it is handy. tavis: that is one word. i was thinking more like hustler. >> there is definitely some hustling to it. i love doing the show. it is hard to say, because i have no objective is to when it comes to it. i have so much chemistry with my fellow actor in this. the strength of the show is on their shoulders. tavis: the critics are loving this. i was looking earlier this week, and every major paper in the country had a piece about this new show. everybody was raving about it on my radio show. my tv crew were raving about it. everybody seems to think this thing is going to be pretty special, which is interesting. i told you that my nickname for you for a while was "pilot man." you did eve