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england like debs goldman and many others and there were many on the left and you mentioned carle sandbergcracy and believed woodrow wilson when he said we're fighting for democracy. the anti-war folks whom i sympathize with more said it was mockery to say this is war against democracy when britain, france, and united states were alive with russia, and russia up until the february revolution was the last absolute monarchy in europe. i think that brings out how countries on -- whether -- when they go to war always claim to be fighting for the most nobel of ideals and never say they fight for their economic self-interest. they only claim noble ideas and it behooves all of us who live in a time of war as we do right now to question that rhetoric very, very closely. >> you mentioned two phenomena that seemed to be closely related. i don't know how. one is tribalism, and i'd like you to explain what you mean, and the other is, you know, amnesia, you didn't mention it, but this is the war to end all wars as were all the others, and that part of the power and the shock of these images is that the

out of the war as soon as the russian revolution succeeded, that i know that some people like carl sandbergme people felt on the left felt patriotically would should be on the same side. some felt felt we weren't under attack. at least germany sank some boats and some people believed in some justification that i think it was a war against the monarchy, at least the european monarchy. would you speak somewhat about american anti-war feeling. particularly about americans, left-wing americans about the war? >> you know, i don't know as much about the antiwar movement in america as i should because in this book i focused entirely on england. i just wanted to tell the story within one country it was there was the most active antiwar movement but there certainly were many americans like the ones i mentioned who felt the same way as these folks in england. people like debs, goldman and many others and there were many on the left, i think you mentioned carl sandberg leaving the socialist party who felt that, yes, it was a war against democracy and who believed woodrow wilson when he said, we were f

. >> andy sandberg is the host of the event. did you know this?as he berkeley native and a berkeley high grad. he told the mercury news he is hoping to get free tickets and food for life from the san jose sharks as well. shark week by the way, starts on sunday. >> berkeley high. we will tune in. >>> it was an encount we are a tiger shark that began a research encounter. >> joe shows us his unusual methods of getting really, really close to his subjects. >> reporter: there are skoofl researcher throughout the world who have made it their life's work studying sharks. william is among their legions. >> i love being in the water with them. i always have since i was little. they're really cool animals. very docile. >> reporter: unlike research here's study sharks from a boat or a cage, he prefers his encounters face to face. >> we're in the water. we don't use protective cages. >> reporter: not only that, as a world champion free diver, he doesn't use any scuba gear. relying only on his lungs underwater for up to four minutes. >> a lot of scientists ha

many on the left, carl sandberg leaving the socialist party you felt that, yes, it was a war against and to believe that there was, when you said we were fighting for democracy. the anti-war folks to i sympathize with much more said it is a mockery to say that this was a war against democracy when britain, france, and the united states were alive -- aligned with russia. russia was the last absolute monarchy in europe. i think, you know, that just brings out how countries when they go to work always claimed to be fighting for the most noble of ideals. they never say they are fighting for their economic self-interest. the only claim no ideas. it behoove us all of us who live in a time of war, as we do right now, to question that rhetoric very, very closely. >> you mentioned to phenomenon that seem to be closely related. i don't know how. one is tribalism, and i would like you to explain what you mean. the other is, and you know, amnesia. he did not mention it. the war to end all wars. but part of the power and the shock of these images is they are part of our history. they're not part