on a sandborn map, using a mailbox survey, 3r reports, or the planning information website. four very different things come up. public is getting confused; i have had several cases during the last year, one of which i'm putting up on the last year, another one i did based on mary woods' staff approving based on a mailbox survye within the last two years. she found in both cases the third criteria was met. your staff report says it cannot count the legal number of dwelling units. but it says count the number of units, not legal. if you ask them, did you get issued 3r reports for the billing department? the answer is no. their website shows one number of legal units and the dbi shows one. their website shows two. o the only way to do it is 3r report, cost 6000. perhaps you want to go in that direction. is an expensive direction but that is what the public should be hearing about. looks like i ran out of time. if you have any questions. >> i have lived in the neighborhood on nob for a number of years; i have a couple of letters. i don't have the time to go to the mall. i am mat

be a discrepancy about information of the planning counter, there is ways for counting item 3, sandborn maps. can you talk about the guidance? if there is one standard of practice, for what we tell people. there should be consistency. >> what i cannot speak for what was said at the counter. >> i did speak to the zoning administrator. >> we have two systems, one property information database, one the property information that; we use property information database. on the property information database is the 3r tab; that's the way i was trained, that's the way i've always done it. >> i don't care what the standard is; i want to make sure it is a consistent standard. it is important. we can agree or disagree. whatever the standard is that we have. >> the lesson here -- it is not, it would not surprise me if there were not inconsistent information going out. erin did the most legally defensible way. in the past mailbox have been counted. >> i wonder if there is something -- in the past when we have conversions offices, people illegally converted to office spaces and we have whole legalization pr