sanders? >> good morning, everybody. >> good morning. >> my name is sanders, my number is do-9582.'ve been doing time since the early '80s. every morning you wake up, get up at 5:30, you go eat chow, you go to your job assignment, whatever. it's no fun. you know what i mean? >> how many people in here have family in prison? >> yeah, family or friends. >> i have. >> how many have brothers and sisters and family and cousins that say it's cool up in there? oh, they say it's cool up in there, huh? come join us. i feel sorry for you if you do join them. >> right now, you're in junior high, you have so many doors open for you right now. but you can voluntarily give up your freedom. some of you, at the age of 14, can end up in prison already. so that's what we're here to talk about, the program, this is what we do. we bring the prison to you guys. we don't want to see you in prison. we would rather see you out here. sanders is here to enlighten you, let you know about the choices. don't make these certain choices that he made. >> my dad has been in and out of prison since i was, like, bor

>> when senator sanders is on. it's partially entertaining, paschly maddening, but he's bringing a perspective that you don't usually here. theesh still going to have to use some time to go back and work out the specifics of the long-term plan. that is the time when you can have these -- we all know, matt, the fact they use the debt ceiling to force this whole debate for really an ideological republican agenda, is no different than me saying we're going to force a structural debate. right? >>. >> i think they will muddle through that. i view bernie sanders as half right. hits righteous call, wall street to contribute more to the solution, i think bernie sander isn't right that social security and medicare don't need to be part of the long-term conversation. we're talking about slowing -- if you do it only on that. >> and to his point, like treeage in a medical theater, the question is why are the first cuts coming from the elderly and poor, as from theal. quickly, last word. >> compromise aacross the board. tax inc

then old bernie sanders vote against cloture.n voted for cloture and it was scott brown. politically we get why scott brown did what he had to do. >> it is the bernie sanders part of this that i want to emphasize. it sounds like the more progressives hear about this deal if they don't like it, sanders is just the type of guy that might just gum up the works to a point to give the president and harry reid some trouble on this. >> can you imagine chuck, though, pressure? we saw jim demint from the other side of the aisle, the opposite side of the spectrum in the "washington post" yesterday. you pointed out to me, he was quoted "i might no the go to the wall in terms of process and objections to gum this up." can you imagine the pressure? with so much riding on this, if bernie sanders is going to be the lone voice in the united states senate to raise his hand and object to unanimous consent or to whatever kind of procedural move they need to make to expedite thing thing -- and probably will need something with that vote being reject

let me bring backer ri sander kerry sander, and i think it is amazing how we address the jury, and how one of the pros ecutors step out of the way so that the jury could have a direct eye contact with casey anthony. >> well, i was curious if the defense attorney jose baez re-thought this position to move the defense table on the other sidef of the jury box, because you know there is the prosecution table and the defense table and the jury box here, and they have an angled shot, but the move was to move the defense table here directly across from the jury box so that when the prosecutor linda drane-burdick was talking to the jury, and she walked away and turned her shoulder, then the jury had one place to look and that is directly across right at casey anthony, and they were looking at her as that first phone call was played. there were a lot of opportunities here for visual and audio aids for both of the sides of this case, and that phone call was a dramatic phone call, because it was the very first phone call of casey short with her mother, and not telling the specifics, and not answe

sanders. but, no, the amount paid and the advice there was on resting on advice from outside counsel with respect to the amount that we would be expected to pay in damages plus expenses and litigation costs. >> did you question why such high payments were made to mr. taylor and to mr. clifford? it's suggested to be 700,000 pounds and a million respectively, for invasions of privacy, when the record amount of privacy damages awarded pie a court remains 60,000 pounds ironically against the "news of the world. ". >> mr. sanders, i did question the amount but not in relation to the 60,000. as you recall, and i'm sure you do, the chronology here, the settlement made against 700,000 pounds was after the authorization of the settlement after the advice that we sought from senior distinguished outside counsel with respect to the quantum of damages that could be expected to pay, which in damages terms was quarter of a million pounds plus expenses and litigation costs was expected to be between 500,000

with me now, vermont independent senator, senator sanders. i want to talk about your plan on deficit reduction, but i want to start with libya. how are you going to vote on the libya resolution? >> i'm going to take a hard look at it. i've never been terribly enthusiastic in america involvement in libya. we're spending a huge amount of money on two wars. we're taking casualties. enough is enough. >> you heard the president last week, he was basically arguing that this does not go near the war powers act. that the war powers act, we could have a debate about it separately, but what was going on in libya didn't touch it. do you agree with him? >> i tell you what i really think. i have to tell you, chuck, i think the budget is what people are worried about. what i'm concerned about is the republican budget which said we're going to cut trillions of dollars in programs for the most vulnerable people in this country at the same time giving huge tax breaks to the wealthiest people. i put up a letter on my website a week ago. we have 110,000 signatu

bernie sanders gives the plan a huge thumb's down. he's here tonight. rupert murdoch plays dumb in front of parliament. >> i don't know. >> reminds me of a scene from the godfather. >> i don't know nothing about that. >> we have more on the news corp. dog and pony show. and the election results everyone is waiting for out of wisconsin. we will talk to the first member of the wisconsin 14 to face a recall election. >>> good evening, americans, thanks for joining us tonight. with less than two weeks before the united states defaults on its obligations, president obama and the gang of six in the senate think that they have come up with a plan that might save the day. the president made a statement in the white house briefing room after a group of 47 senators were briefed on the plan by the gang of six. the plan would cut the deficit by 3.7 trillion over ten years, including a trillion dollar hike in revenue. i don't know how the republicans are going to go along with that. the president wants republicans to just understand just how much he's giving up to g

i want to talk now with senator bernie sanders from vermont. he's an independent. sir, good to have you on. i know it's a busy night for us. but i want you to tell us, do you think that harry reid is going to have the votes when it comes now to 1:00 p.m. tomorrow? >> no, the real question is whether he should have the votes. i mean, i think sometimes the media thinks this is a game between the red sox and the yankees. it's not. this is going to impact millions of senior citizens, children, veterans, and the sick. so the question is not who wins or loses, it's, who should win. my fear is is that despite the fact that the wealthiest people in this country are doing phenomenally well, that you have huge corporations making billions in profits and not paying one penny in taxes, the republicans have been adamant, absolutely firm, that the rich and the powerful should not play any role in deficit reduction and the entire burden should come down on the middle class and working families. i think that is morally grotesque and bad economic policies. so we have got to look at

morgan ok so bernie sanders got one time on it that's a yes and there's no more of coming there's no more audit coming and in a long time or do we discovered that there was a massive fraud on wall street jamie diamond did morgan the whole group massive fraud yes but it wasn't continuing on the theme of profits you brought up corporate profits a boom in corporate profits a bust and jobs so now that we're officially eighteen months out of recession try to tell that. remember this is a banana republic and this is something like papa doc would have told us or or could alfie you know these are the same sort of statements they would make yeah we're out of recession anyway of the alleged growth that has happened only one percent of it has gone to wages and salaries only one percent of that growth is spent fifteen percent fifty percent and twenty five percent in the previous three recessions by contrast corporate profits accounted for eighty eight percent of the growth so this is clear banana republican isn't on the one percent of trickle down to prison guards. and the corporate profits of c

independent senator bernie sanders spoke with me earlier today on our radio show. he's not happy about this, and after the radio interview, sanders went to the senate floor to deliver this very clear message to the president. >> when president obama ran for the presidency in 2008, he was a strong advocate of social security. made it very clear to the american people that he was not going to cut benefits. the american people expect the president of the united states to keep his word. >> sanders is spot on. senator obama made this promise when he was criticizing john mccain back in september of 2008. >> but john mccain's campaign has gone even further, suggesting that the best answer for the growing pressures on social security might be the cost of living adjustments or raise the retirement age. now, let me be clear. i will not do either. >> don't you think that the democrats and liberals across this country need to hear the president say the very same thing right now? and if he doesn't, if he doesn't, there is an undercurrent in this town that he could find himself

sanders, but no.id and the advice there was on resting on advice from outside counsel with respect to the amount that we would be expected to pay in damages plus expenses in litigation costs. >> did you question why such high payments were made to mr. taylor and to mr. clifford? it suggested to be 700,000 pounds and a million respectively for invasions of privacy when the record amount of privacy damages awarded by a court remains 60,000 pounds ironically against "the news of the world"? >> mr. sanders, i did question the amount made, but not in relation to the 60,000. if you recall, and i'm sure you do, the chronology here. the settlement made with respect to the 60,000 pounds against "the news of the world" which i believe was the moseley case was after the authorization of the settlement and after the advice we sought from senior distinguished outside counsel with respect to the quantum of damages we could be expected to pay which in damage materials was quarter of million pounds plus expenses and

and we have reports from kerry sanders standing outside of the orlando courtroom. and kerry, let me get an update on how the jury deliberated. this is the first few day and as you recalled less than 11 hours, people are stunned, the twitter and facebook and phonelines and people are stunned that we have a verdict in the high-profile case. >> and so we have seven women, and five men who returned to the room, elected a foreman and as you noted in 11 hours according to my math came back with a verdict. when george and cindy anthony were notified, they made their way into the courthouse, and of course, as you can imagine, because of their roles in all of this, the cameras surrounding them and cindy anthony angry and pushing and pushing until she got into the courtroom. we can see them now seated in the courtroom and george anthony there, and it is a gut-wrenching experience not just for them during this trial, but for three years of wondering what happens. cindy anthony unwilling to accept that her daughter was involved in anything that happened to her little grandchil

kate. >> kerry sanders in a rainy orlando tonight. thank you. >>> the former head of the international monetary fund could move freely around new york this weekend after being released from house arrest on friday, but tonight there's news that dominique strauss-kahn may face a new investigation in his own home country. a young french woman, a writer, who has publicly said that strauss-kahn tried to assault her during an interview now says she will bring a formal attempted rape charge against him. strauss-kahn's attorneys say if she does that, he will sue her for slander. >>> overseas today general david petraeus spent his last fourth of july as commander of the u.s. forces in afghanistan. he met with american troops in the war zone, and just two weeks before heading home to take on his new job as cia director, he spoke one on one with nbc about america's mission. >> happy fourth of july to all of you. >> reporter: it's his eighth fourth of july in a combat zone, but the last in uniform for general david petraeus. he spent the day visi

kerry sanders, nbc news, orlando. >>> when we come back, for one man, the remarkable outcome after a potentially devastating explosion. >>> there was quite a scene in thailand earlier this tweak. a member of the bomb squad all geared up was inspecting a suspicious car in a no parking zone and then tried to open the car's door, and then -- a bomb in the car exploded, blowing the officer almost 30 feet away. here it is again from another camera angle. amazingly, the officer was able to get up within moments and walk away, with only minor injuries, saved by his protective clothing. no one claimed responsibility for the bombing. >>> back in this country, the supreme court agreed this week to take up a controversial issue involving privacy. it's a challenge to the growing police practice of secretly installing gps tracking devices in the cars of unsuspecting drivers. nbc's justice correspondent pete williams has more tonight. >> reporter: this california college student remembers exactly where it was found, hidden under his car. >> right over here. >> reporter: at first, yass yasser afifi

>> nbc's kerry sanders in orlando tonight, thank you so much. for more on today's closing arguments, we're now joined by kendall coffey, a former u.s. attorney in florida, who has worked on many high-profile cases. he has been closely watching this trial. good evening to you. as you look back, which side has the stronger case after a month-long trial? >> well, the prosecution has a strong circumstantial case based on plenty of forensic evidence. but the question is, do they have without any smoking gun, evidence enough to prove premeditated murder by a mother who apparently loved her child beyond a reasonable doubt? that's why i think in the final analysis, the first-degree murder charge, premeditation, is going to be a close call. >> how important are closing arguments? today's closing arguments? is it your experience that generally jurors already have their minds made up by this point in a trial? or can they be the clincher? >> well i think plenty of the jurors have got very strong feelings before today, as to how this ought to turn out. the c

could the election have a challenger to the incumbent one bernie sanders says he wants to see just that. and a democrat stepping up against president obama? we'll discuss it and how california's governor jerry brown hand out illegal immigrant students? and al gore climate hysteria is back and hitting the world of reality tv. hang on, all of that and more, "the five" starts right now. welcome to "the five". i'm andrea tantaros, let's start out talking about the drama from last night. i'm not talking about the bachelor season finale or the real house wives of new york reunion. i'm talking about the battle on capitol hill and the drama between two men john boehner and president obama that took place. listen to this back and forth. >> the only reason this balanced approach isn't on its way to becoming law right now is because a significant number of republicans in congress are insisting on a different approach. >> i want you to know i made a sincere effort to work with the president and i'll tell you, i gave it my all. >> while republicans might like to see deeper cuts, there are still thin

we begin here tonight with nbc kerry sanders in orlando, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. it took the 12-member jury just under 11 hours to reach their verdict -- not guilty on all three felony counts. >> will the defendant rise, along with council? >> reporter: 25-year-old casey anthony stood in the courtroom, no color in her face as the clerk read the verdict. >> as to the charge of first-degree murder, verdict as to count one, we the jury, find the defendant not guilty. >> reporter: on the charge of aggravated child abuse. >> we the jury find the defendant not guilty. >> reporter: and on the charge of aggravated manslaughter of a child. >> we the jury find the defendant not guilty, so say we all. >> reporter: casey anthony took a deep breath and then began to cry as the clerk announced the jury's decision on four counts of providing false information to a law enforcement officer. >> we the jury find the defendant guilty. >> reporter: she could face four years in prison on those charges but today, casey was celebrating, embracing her legal team. >> oh, my god! oh, my go

kerry sanders in orlando. kerry, thanks. >>> the jury has spoken. so many questions remain that some of them kerry brought up. the biggest of them all, what were jurors thinking when they let her off for first-degree murder? this morning on "today," an alternate juror on the case tried to shed some light. >> that's the $64,000 question. but what you have to also remember with casey is the lies just didn't start with the death of caylee. these lies have been going on for two years previously. and so i think it was just the way this family operated and how i personally think the family was dysfunctional. that was the way she had always acted and had continued, you know, with the lies. >> and we're learning more about the makeup of the jury as well including some actually had run ins with the law themselves. we want to bring in our legal panel to break everything down for you here. in burbank, california, we have carl douglas who worked on the o.j. simpson defense team. and in orlando, meg strickler. carl, let me start with you. marcia clark came out t

no charges will be filed against sanders. >>> a former schoolteacher will have to pay a large fund forestruction of valuable artifacts. a civil jury has ordered margaret and her family to pay a san jose man $750,000. papers written by physicist albert einstein were destroyed by a wildfire in 2007. she was found responsible for starting that fire when she was illegally burning material. more than 47,000 acres were burned and four homes destroyed. >>> it turns out fireworks may be to blame for this house fire near burlingame this afternoon. we showed you this video first during nbc bay area news at 5:00. the home is near the canyon park and an unincorporated part of san mateo county and they believe someone launched fireworks on that roof. the fire is now out. >>> it has been so warm these days, our meteorologist, jeff, has been standing by at stanford. what's really hot is the ping-pong playing behind you. >> how am i doing? how am i doing? >> that's not you. >> that's not you! >> you couldn't have improved that much since 5:00? >> of course i did. the photographer pulls out who we have

only a few people -- nbc's kerry sanders is live in orlando. kerry, you know, there were tons of people out there when she was released over the weekend. how did she in the end here manage to actually disappear? >> reporter: well, you know what, it's really amazing because she spent three years and one day inside the jail cell here and then she exited the jail on sunday morning just slightly after midnight, walked out, took her about 15 seconds. then she got into a waiting suv. they closed the road, she took off down the road. news helicopters were chasing her. but somewhere shall as they were speeding down the road in and amongst the buildings, poof, she disappeared. flanked by her attorney, casey anthony wearing a bright pink shirt, skinny jeans and sneakers, mouthed a simple "thank you" to one of the armed officers at the jail and in just 15 seconds, she was out the front door. amid protesters' cat calls, casey made her way to an awaiting suv, where she flashed a slim smile and then she and her crew sped off. some of those who gathered here

bernie sanders from vermont with us on "the ed show." remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. our text question. congressman chris van hol enand chris ellis son will join me to talk about what is going on in washington and the longer the debt debate goes on, the longer washington ignores the american people's number one priority -- jobs, jobs and more jobs. stay with us. >>> today there was a press conference at the corner of constitution and 14th street. here is the congressman from california. >> our president, we believe, has the ultimate power to solve this. we hope he doesn't have to use it. we hope that republicans come to their senses and move forward with a more rational approach. >> of course, congressmen and leaders support the president's right to do this if necessary. but republican congresswoman and presidential candidate michelle bachman is crying foul. >> it's congress that does the spending. the president is prohibited to do that. if he had the power to do that, he would effectively be a dictato

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not the free market right now talking about counterfeiting said had a little audit thanks to bernie sanders they revealed sixteen trillion in a loan as they were made to foreign banks and j.p. morgan goldman sachs and jamie dimon got exemption as far this bailout money and loan program to add to other nefarious activities even falling at sixteen trillion dollars bailout figure and why would it is america so concerned about going out these foreign banks unless of course america reports to foreign entities i think america as a whole is pretty clueless about the fed it's really complicated it's pretty abstract and of course it's the last thing they're going to teach you in government schools and government schools they can teach you how the government and its flavor . free and the government saved us from our system in the great depression and the government helps the poor and the sick and the old you get all that propaganda you're not going to get the actual basis of government power which is counterfeiting and fast so yeah it's monstrous and what is truly astounding about this is the way the

occupier is the banks and this is our headline here max the fed audit so this is from senator bernie sanders website he was responsible for inserting into the wall street reform bill last year a clause which demanded one time audit of the fed and that is out and what they discovered is that the federal reserve lent out emergency programs a total of sixteen trillion dollars to u.s. banks foreign banks and corporations like g.e. and according to the report however there are two very important points here is they did provide a conflict of interest waivers to employees and private contractors so they could keep investments in the financial firms that they were bailing out they mentioned jamie dimon as benefiting from this clause sat on the board of the new york fed and bailed out j.p. morgan and then the the investigation also revealed that the fed outsourced most of its emergency lending programs to private contractors many of it which also were recipients of extremely low interest and then secret loans jamie diamond dropped on his head as a kid or what i mean here's a guy who's given billions

senator bernie sanders may be chief among those. from vermont who caucuses with democrats, and i'm delighted to say he joins us now from capitol hill. good afternoon, sir. why are you so disappointed in the president, and -- >> let me just say, martin, let me just say -- >> yes. >> most people who are calling my office now are really not worried about presidential politics. what they are worried about is the collapse of the middle class, the increase in poverty, the growing gap between the very rich and everybody else, and a deficit reduction debate right now which is moving in exactly the opposite direction of where the american people want to go. you quoted the "washington post" poll. let me tell you soluthing else about the "washington post" poll. you may have seen this. recently 72% of the american people said they thought wealthy people should pay more in taxes to help us with deficit reduction. they also said in very strong terms, they do not want to see cuts in social security, medicare, medicaid and other important programs.

. >> bernie sanders. >> yeah, these are people, they are gaining in prominence and they are screwingund with the, you know, the kind of settled categories. if somebody like tom coburn, got to be four big military. in fact, he's one of the lead be republicans, leading senators, questioning whether or not the military industrial complex should have a blank check. >> everybody shis bernie sanders is a big left. can't find a stronger capital for a more conservative point of view than capital requirements than bernie sanders. i think as we understand the narrative collectively better about what it means to be conservative what it means to have investment innovation and problem-solving in a way that is fair and collaborative, i think that finding these values to all systems, assigning them, becomes more and more possible and i suspect the two of you are very much a part of that and i congratulate you on the book. absolute pleasure. have a great independence day. there's the book. "declaration of independence." looking for something patriotic, it is even, as you can see, papered in red, whi

sanders, do you have a question? respectfully, i don't know what you'd like me to say. i'm not aware of that particular phrase. >> but now, you are familiar with the term because i've explained it to you. >> i've heard the phrase before and we were not ever guilty of that. >> brown: the elder murdoch also took on the question of whether the families of 9/11 victims were subject to phone hacking in the u.s. >> we have seen no evidence of that at all. as far as we know, the fbi haven't, either. if they do, we will treat it exactly the same way as we treat it here. i cannot believe it happened from anyone in america. >> brown: m.p.s focused, as well, on the growing political dimensions of the scandal, and the murdochs' ties to political power, especially prime minister david cameron. >> why did you enter the back door at number ten when you visited the prime minister following the last general election? >> because i was asked to. >> you were asked to go in the back door of number ten? >> yes. >> why would that be? >> to avoid photographers in the front, i imagine. i don't