thanks, but we're tied up with billy sanders' murder. billy sanders?sanders. session guy. you must've been ... when you heard he was steppin' out with beatrice, guys, i don't-- i don't date my secretaries. yeahnobody with money does that. to the clubs and let me know which musicians to look at. billy was one of them. you and billy get along? sure. yeah, we got along. he had a very strict old man, though. you know, when billy wasn't churchin', he wanted to keep it quiet. so, why didn't you come forward, make a statement after he was killed? i didn't even hear aut it until a week later. kid quit coming around. why's that? why do most of 'em? he fell to the bottle or the needle. the one thing i will say about billy, kid was all about the right place, the right time. (funky instrumental plays) whoa, whoa, hold it. (music stops) yo, what's that? you guys deaf? answer me. billy: um... i was playing behind the beat. sounded kinda fresh, you know. buster: damn it, kid! ronde, i-i'm sorry, man. i told him to stay on the beat. stop, stop. what he's rollin' with

la doctora sanders, bienvenido. gracias. venga.nsado, haré que lo acompañen a su habitación. no es necesario, prefiero empezar a trabajar enseguida. bien, le mostraré el laboratorio. ¿qué era esto antes? era un viejo monasterio. los que financian el proyecto se lo compraron a los locales. ¿por qué tantos guardias armados? acostúmbrese a eso. ♪ ♪ [música clásica rápida] [locutor] "inteligencia: servicios y secretos". ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ doctor moreau. ¿sí? aquí es donde se recoge y selecciona el uranio en forma mineral, luego lo tratamos en este reactor para obtener el concentrado de óxido de uranio. torta amarilla, la transforman en hexafloruro de uranio. exacto, en forma de gas que inyectamos luego en las centrifugas. (hombre) doctora, ya casi estamos listos. perfecto. doctor moreau, le presento a su equipo. (marco) hola, moreau, moreau. mucho gusto. ¿cómo está, doctor? no lo toque. ¿la electricidad y la velocidad de las centrifugas son constantes? perfectamente balanceadas. muy bien, porque los motores son delicados, son de fibra d

for more, let's turn to senator bernie sanders of vermont for his reaction.good to have you with us tonight. i've got to ask you, if the talking filibuster isn't in it, if the 41 rule isn't in it, where is the teeth in this filibuster reform that might happen? your thoughts, sir. >> there won't be much in the way of teeth. what you'll see is some improved efficiencies. the senate will move a little bit faster. but in essence, what tom harkin said is absolutely right. what we have seen is an unparalleled level of obstructionism time after time when we're trying to create jobs, trying to deal with global warming, trying to deal with income inequality. they throw 60 vote, 60 votes, 60 votes. if we don't have the talking filibuster, having 41 votes to maintain the filibuster, then we're simply not going to be able to address the serious problems facing the american people. >> so does this mean in your opinion that the 113th could be a lot like the 112th if the minority party decides to act like that? >> it won't be as bad. i think this will be some improvements i

archaeologist william sanders. i think all human societies are the product of a process of cultural evolution. in general, this evolution leads to an increase in the size of societies, an increase in the complexity of their interaction and institutions. it also leads to more economic interdependence among households within a society, and among societies. keach: to trace the evolution of human societies in the new world, an archaeological team comes here to mexico's tehuacan valley. the team is led by veteran archaeologist scotty macneish. they are seeking evidence of the first inhabitants of the valley. when macneish first excavated here in 1962, he discovered a time capsule of human occupation at a site called purron cave. macneish: here we are back at purron cave. we really haven't dug in it in almost 30 years. walls all preserved. even the trowel marks we made to mark off strata are still preserved and we have all sorts of neat floors of charcoal one on top of the other. the amazing thing about this cave is that

joining me now is bernie sanders, an independent from vermont. me read to you what you wrote in a statement yesterday. this way all of our viewers can be on the same page about where you are. i remain extremely concern that all of his key economic advisers have come from wall street. in my view we need a treasury secretary prepared to stand up to corporate america and powerful lobbyists and fight for policies that protect the worker families in our country. senator sanders, why do you think jack lew and his experience on wall street is his biggest discounter for moving into treasury secretary? >> i think the problem is that wall street right now, thomas, is the most powerful entity in the united states of america. i think we need people in a variety of positions, including the secretary of the treasury, who is prepared to stand up to the incredible wealth and power. let me give you one example, sixth largest financial institutions in the country, $9 trillion, two-thirds the gdp of the united states of america. three out of the four largest financ

first i want to bring in new york senator james sanders jr. by the way, i did one on the job. congratulations. nice of you to come in. you saw how things played out. this is your area that was hit the hardest. are you satisfied with this speedy resolution today and with what we'll see this week and in a couple of weeks? >> satisfied? i'm charging them with being awol, absent without leadership in this case. there's a compact that the american people make and that's if you do right, play by the rules, pay your taxes, defend the nation, uncle sam will be there when you're in need. they won't leave you out there in the cold. that's not true. 3,000 of my residents are out there in the cold. they haven't had power or light -- >> you still have 3,000 people who don't have electricity? >> 3,000 peek in my district

but first i want to bring in new york senator james sanders jr. by the way, day one on the job. >> absolutely. >> congratulations. nice of you to come in. you saw how things played out. this is your area that was hit the hardest. are you satisfied with this speedy resolution today and what we're going to see this week and then in a couple of weeks? >> satisfied? i'm charging them with being awol, absent without leadership in this case. there's a compact that the american people make, and that's if you do right, play by the rules, pay your taxes, defend the nation, uncle sam is going to be there when you're in need. they won't leave you out there in the cold. that's not true. 3,000 of my residents are out there in the cold. they haven't had power or light -- >> you still have 3,000 people who don't have electricity? >> 3,000 people who do not have light or power in my district. and the people in washington just don't get it. we don't have that time. these residents did not have a merry christmas. they're not having a happy new

time to me and senator sanders, i appreciate your interest in that arianna as well. let us just say the reason i ask about training is -- 1963, a bill was signed for mental health, was a social worker working as a child abuse worker. the cost of that, age 27 i was able to go to graduate school and get a master's in social work. i was specializing in community mental health. many might not think i have a therapeutic personality. [laughter] but i did learn a lot and i learned about scholarships and so on that make a difference in lives, the consequences of well-trained people and what they produced in our society is important. >> we hope you're training is successful in the appropriations process as well. >> i tend to be very agitated about lot of things. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. newtown and other events have highlighted the importance of this issue and i very much appreciate your holding this hearing. let me start off, i will approach the issue in a different way than some of our colleagues. the united states of america is the only country in the industri

senator bernie sanders with us here on "the ed show."oming up, new details in the death of legendary nfl linebacker junior seau. the nfl has a major problem on its hands. there is no question about that. we'll bring you the details. stay with us. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." earlier today james yeager, a tennessee firearms instructor, posted a video on youtube in response to reports that president obama might use executive orders to change gun laws in america. in the video mr. yeager said that he is prepared to start killing people if that happens. he also advised others to get armed and be prepared. after that video drew attention on the internet he posted another one, walking back some of those statements. here's part of what he had to say. >> i do not condone anybody committing any kind of felonies up to and including aggravated america. and during our show tonight mr. yeager contacted us and agreed to come on this program tomorrow night to share his views. >>> still to come, "lincoln" leads the pack in oscar nominations while s

thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me on. >> eliot: you just heard senator sanders whot made the best case for the yes vote. explain why you voted against it and what will happen next as we enter into the uncertainty of the debt ceiling negotiation. >> i think you and bernie saunders already had a great discussion, and i agree with all of his concerns on both sides. it was a close vote for me, too. i came down on the other side. ultimately i decided not only was it not a particularly good deal just on the task part of it, but it really left us defensive about the arguments that are to come in the next few months on the sequestration which was postponed a couple of months. the debt ceiling and the continued resolution, the usual funding bills that congress has to pass. i think that everything that we salvage out of this is still at risk including social security and medicare. >> eliot: i want to quote a statement you put out today but i want you to explain what you mean by defenseless. we already played our negotiating cards in terms of tax cuts. we only got $20 billion

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i heard from senator sanders on the efforts that he's made to. sort of put it put a band-aid on but i believe that you know since the congress changed over from one hundred twelve to the one hundred thirteenth that all of those efforts have not died and that there's nothing happening that's going on to say to the postal service is there any have heard anybody talking about simply repealing the oh so closely jand the republicans push through in order to since begin destruction yes absolutely paul thanks for raising that topic appreciate that the for those people who don't know what paul and i are talking about let me just you know a thirty second or sixty second here history lesson back in two thousand and six the post office was doing really really well post office by the way is in the constitution ben franklin invented it before he helped invent america has been around forever and the post office was so. profitable essentially was showing so much surplus that they were actually having conversations about taking twenty five thirty thirty five per

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no, we can't. >> senator bernie sanders, good to have you with us this evening.coming up, the republicans told us the stock market would just go wild under president romney if he had gotten elected. it's soaring okay right now, don't you think, under president obama? >>> and later, bobby jindal leads the effort to rebrand the republican party. but there is one problem. they're selling the same old policies. karen finney and eugene robinson will join me. stay with us. we're right back. [ male announcer ] wow. a brave choice. okay, think courage. think shaun white. think how perfect they'll be for everyday stuff. yeah. scan me. stride on, pale-legged, short-shorts guy. [ coughs ] [ baby crying ] ♪ [ male announcer ] robitussin® liquid formula soothes your throat on contact and the active ingredient relieves your cough. robitussin®. don't suffer the coughequences™. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." today is january 25th. it's been three weeks since the congress and the president raised taxes to prevent the fiscal cliff. you know what some conservatives were saying

during the hearing, he was questioned by senator bernie sanders. >> do you believe the regulation ofll street pushed by people like alan greenspan contributed significantly to the disaster we saw on wall street several years ago? >> senator, when we discussed, i mentioned i don't consider myself an expert in some of these aspects of the financial industry. i have been a manager, not an investment adviser. my sense is as someone who has generally been familiar with these trends is that the problems in the financial industry receded deregulation. there was an increasing emphasis on highly abstract derivative products that got us to the point that in the time frame leading up to the financial crisis, risks were taken, were not fully embraced were well understood. i don't personally not know the extent to which the regulation drove it, but ion't believe the regulation was the proximate cause. i would refer to others who are more expert about it. >> that is jack the responding to bernie sanders when president obama announced his nomination of treasury secretary or to treasury secretary of

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and there is nobody more liberal than bernie sanders. >> bernie sanders wanted the payroll tax cut holidayelse in congress. >> bill: he also didn't want anything touching social security or medicare. >> right. >> bill: and that's one good part about this deal. no, you were right earlier, arthur we'll revisit that. but point well made mark thank you. by the way on the payroll tax cut -- look, i'm sorry to see it go. i think it is a mistake to let it expire. i wonder how many people really notice that 2% in their payroll. >> if you are an average american household that is like 50 bucks away. and you notice what your paycheck looks like if you look at your paycheck. people may be scratching their heads if they are not following politics. >> bill: yeah, how about marianne out in kalamazoo, michigan. >> caller: good morning, i had a comment and a question. the comment is you remember a few months ago we were all saying we all have to give a little bit and bare the burden -- >> bill: right. >> caller: so i view the $400,000 as the middle class giving a little bit. >> bill: okay. now what is you

kerry sanders, nbc news, rivera beach, florida. >> how about those kids?hat's our broadcast on a monday night, as we start off a new week. thank you for being here with us. i'm brian williams. we hope to see you right back here tomorrow evening. good night. >>> a disturbing scene, children watch from a nearby porch as an oakland police officer lays down evidence markers after the latest shooting, an 8-year-old girl shot and wounded in broad daylight. >>> good evening and thanks for joining us on this monday. i'm raj mathai. >> and i'm jessica aguirre. that little girl is in the hospital tonight after being shot in the leg. this all unfolding around 2:30 this afternoon. nbc bay area's terry mcsweeney just spoke with oakland's chief of police and joins us live with what wha police have to say. just 8 years old. how is the girl? >> reporter: she's going to be fine. it's a superficial wound. the police chief responding him seven to the scene of the shooting today as a way of saying it's got to stop, shooting of these very young people, and there's been a slew

good for bernie sanders, bernie sanders voted against this deal yesterday because he said it was a joke sure who else voted against it. we will check that during the break. here it is. we thought we were going to fix the filibuster. you know what? tom harkin said this. tom harkin said if we don't fix the filibuster president might as well take a vacation for the next four years because he is not the going to be able to get anything done. i have to tell you i am so disappointed in this and leader harry reid if if democrats don't get anything done on immigration reform can't get judges passed through the senate, can't get anything done on gun control because of filibuster, filibuster filibuster, it's their own damn fault for not changing it when they had the opportunity they had the moment they had the votes. filibuster reform. we were ready for it. it ain't going to happen. 866-55-press. 866-557-7377. alt are democrats such wimps? i don't get it. i don't get it. >> heard around the country and seen on current tv this is "the bill press show." schmooze >> okay, so there's wiggle-room in t

. >> thank you, senator sanders for holding this hearing. you've drawn a big crowd because it's an important issue. we are altering up in washington for the fiscal cliff, coming in a couple of weeks and with that i mean, we're beginning to hear the usual refrain about how important is to cut any care benefit and to limit access to medicare for seniors and that's the responsible thing to do to save money, which course is a preposterous and ill-informed media, particularly in the context of a health care system that is 100 times more unfit in the 60 and if you look at the graph, it's an accelerating curve of upper costs. we look at a $2.7 trillion annual expenditure on health care, that is probably 50% higher. a 50% inefficiency penalty compared to all of our industrialized competitors, the worst industrialized competitors will% of gdp. we ate% of gdp. look at the scope of this, accelerated pace at the end raise any think you'll saw by cutting medicare? it's simply not right as the ceo kaiser permanente george halverson said, that is an inept

kerry sanders, nbc news, rivera beach, florida. >> how about those kids?r broadcast on a monday night, as we start off a new week. thank you for being here with us. i'm brian williams. we hope to see you right back here tomorrow evening. good night. there are over 200 varieties of gourmet coffee that have earned the "keurig brewed" seal of approval. the keurig brewed seal is our commitment that the coffee inside will deliver a delicious cup of coffee every time. keurig brewed -- look for the only mark of genuine keurig quality.

kerry sanders, nbc news, rivera beach, florida. >> how about those kids?r broadcast on a monday night, as we start off a new week. thank you for being here with us. i'm brian williams. we hope to see you right back here tomorrow evening. good night. od night.

they have to do something hard as opposed to what senator sanders was arguing. the main problem we have for 30 years in the future is middle class entitlement that we can't afford. we need broader taxes or reduced benefits or a mix of the two. those are the hardest things in politics to do and it will require real leadership by both sides. >> the president said he is willing to make compromises. is he willing to face the denial that michael grish am laid out. >> if you look at the negotiating position and trying to make a bigger deal on social security, it shows he was willing to bend, even on this deal. the taxes, he bent on the payroll tax cut. he is willing to bend. mitch mcconnell said he didn't have anyone to dance with. the president doesn't have anyone to dance with. when boehner can't get his deputy to support a deal that people think is needed along with over 100 republicans that he couldn't get on board, you see the republican party lacking any real leadership. without that leadership, it will be harder to get a bigger deal and do tough things without

bernie sanders has said he will not vote for him.e said in my view, we need a treasury secretary who is prepared to stand up to corporate america and their powerful lobbyists and fight for policies that protect the working families in our country. i do not believe mr. lew is that person. it is worth noting, in 2008 jack lew oversaw one of the most controversial branches of citigroup and there has been -- we talked about it yesterday. we're talking about wall street and the white house and the university system being the military industrial complex of our time, quoting gabe sherman from "new york magazine" piece. there is a pipeline between this stuff, and when you have a treasury secretary that's setting monetary policy, should he be someone that is theoretically in could ka hoots with the street? >> that strikes me as a crazy attack from bernie sanders because lew -- it is true that lew wrote for citigroup. he is probably the most liberal group of the cabinet. he has spent his whole career on the left of the democratic party. you kn

. >> i want to bring in independent senator bernie sanders to talk more about that. as she said, senator, and welcome to you, gun control just one of many issues congress is going to have to deal with. debt ceiling debate now postponed until may. the sequestering, the continuing resolution. and republicans are pushing for changes in entitlements. is this in large part about where the white house decides where to put its political capital? >> kwlourks know what, we have also forgotten in this discussion, we remain in the midst of a terrible, terrible recession. counting people who have given up looking for work and underemployed. we are looking at -- almost 15% of our population who is unemployed, who don't have jobs. real wages for millions of workers are going down. the gap between the very, very wealthy and everybody else is growing wider. so what concerns me is, yeah, you have to deal with gun control. deal with a lot of other issues, but we cannot -- we cannot forget the reality that tens and tens of millions of working people are really hurting. >> how would you

that's wrong. >> independent senator bernie sanders from vermont.ir, as always, great to have you on. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >>> apology not accepted. the log cabin republicans taking out this full page ad "new york times" in the last month. also an ad in the "washington post." opposing a potential chuck hagel nomination as defense secretary. why they still say he's wrong on gay rights. >>> happening right now, a preliminary hearing for james holmes, the suspect in the aurora theater shooting. we're going to take you there, get a first look at some of the evidence in that case. ♪ i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans? [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't. multigrain cheerios >>> we're following develops news out of colorado for you where preliminary hearings just got under way for james holmes, the suspect in the aurora movie theater shooting that left 12 people dead, dozens injured last july. prosecutors will outline their

. >> thank you very much, senator sanders, for holding this hearing. you've drawn a big crowd, i think, because it's an important issue. we are all gearing up here in washington for a fiscal cliff, coming in a couple weeks, and with that looming, we're beginning to hear the usual refrain how important it is to cut medicare benefits and to limit access to medicare to seniors, and that that's the responsible thing to do so save money, which, of course, is a ill-informed idea, particularly, in the context of a health care system that's 100 times more expensive than it was in 1960s, and if you look at the graph, it's an accelerating curve of upward costs, and when you look at a 2.7 trillion dollar annual expenditure on health care that's probably 50% higher, there's a 50% infirstefficiency permit paid in the united states compared to all of our industrialized competitors, we're at 18% of gdp, it's $800 billion a year spent unnecessarily. look at the scope of this. look at the accelerating rocketing pace of the increase, and you think you're going to solve

your record you cannot do business with the government there is not one defense contractor senator sanders said this to me on the radio show today and i'm pretty sure he would it would be sanded on in front of three million people the fact checkers now one major defense contractor that has not been convicted of a felony. why don't we just say if you're convicted of a felony you can't do business with the government i think that's kind of. and it's kind of crazy to make a law that you know deliberately will will basically mean you can't do it can't having guns anymore and you can't have manufacturing of tanks and planes you know you know if if if lockheed went out of business tomorrow you don't think that you would mark and a half a dozen other guys who got some money could get together and start actually a group of absolutely great i wouldn't bailed out g.m. or chrysler either so i mean you're absolutely no bailouts are a huge problem and it gives people you know incentive to act badly i think i think if we started nationalizing the banks like we should have like we should have in two thou

south carolina -- ace sanders.ou know you have skills if you are playing college football and your first name and is ace. south carolina -- first quarter. devon gardner. cut to the chase. 16 seconds left. ellington in for the touchdown. south carolina comes back to beat michigan, 33-28. of course, this year it is the bowl game down in south carolina. there was a time when it was the day in football. now it is now a the. >> we will be back with the seven-day forecast. stay with us. >> here is a look at what we're working in -- working on for 11 news tonight's. a party gets out of hand. what sparked several calls to the police. plus, couples took the plunge on new year's day. those stories, plus the latest on the fiscal cliff and how it on the fiscal cliff and how it chances are, you're not made of money, so don't overpay for motorcycle insurance. geico, see how much you could save. >> tina, i got up this morning, and i was thinking -- you know, i got up this morning, and i was thinking, i know it was supposed to be

bernie sanders and i usually follow and probably do in this case too bernie sanders as progressive ases congress, bernie sanders said yesterday look, this is not a perfect deal by any means but voting for this, which he did voting for this, was more important was important. it was better to vote for this he said than to allow the country to go over the cliff and to allow the economy to collapse and to accept what might happen to the markets and to the loss of our credit rating. so that leading liberal said we ought to go -- president did the right thing. tom harkin, another leading liberal said the president did the wrong thing. should not have accepted this small deal and voted against it. what do you say? make a big mistake here? or do the right thing. 1-866-55-press. we're not out of the woods. with very one or two more battles that will be even uglier than the last one coming up. let's talk about it here on the "full court press" this thursday morning. >> announcer: this is the "full court press." the "bill press show." live on your radio and on current tv. that's why we bring tog

. >> bernie sanders. >> there is a picture of you and him. >> spooning with bernie sanders. >> stephaniegone in this country. when everybody comes on the show we listen. we say that's socialism? that sounds really good. so he gets called this crazy socialist and he's actually -- would be normally -- just be a democrat. it is the republican party. insanely crazy. >> we have a call, debbie in maryland. >> stephanie: really? >> she was at the sexy liberal show. >> in maryland last night. >> stephanie: see how i get nervous. somebody who has a picture of something. hi deb. welcome. you're on "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: hi, steph, i was at your show saturday night. >> stephanie: yea. >> caller: i was in the 101k street seat. i didn't get the hug you promised. >> stephanie: i'm sorry. >> caller: i got so sad i walked over to the old grill with friends. but we loved your show. >> stephanie: thank you. you could have groped jim. >> caller: all of the congressmen that get changed out, they come with all of the young people so all of the young people from all over the country were ther

gerri: anthony sanders. >> anthony. okay. the banks want the settlement because the independent consultants at the bank's are showing that the banks are engaged in this activity. listen to this. the homeowners were available, modification that was available based on the lenders' underwriting criteria. the lenders never provided it to the home owners. the homeowners lost their homes. the independent consultants -- gerri: come on. you know what kind of mortgage you can afford. you know what you can pay each month. why is the consumer responsible? >> this is what -- this is what modifications out there that were available and the home our's lost their homes. of course they need to compensate the home owners for their activities that were wrongful acts. that is the american way. if you are regulated -- gerri: that is the american way? the american way, is it the american way to make consumer so when they make bad decisions? >> no. [talking over each other] gerri: let at the talks. please. let anthony get a word in edgewise. >> if