liz: have you ever met bernie sanders? this is a guy with something to say, and this is an opportunity for him on a national scale to say some of the things he wants to say. he has definitive opinions about wall street, about corporate america, about how he feels about the american middle class and how he feels about the poor being left behind by our government. this is his chance to stand up and say what he feels. he will get attention because we only have two official at this point. host: later today we will have three and c-span will be covering it. liz: but unlike the republicans, who at this point has somewhere between eight and 27, it is harder for them to get their message out, but if you're a democrat, it is a wide-open field and it is a chance to have a bully pulpit and have some cameras. ford: one of the things is hillary clinton has near universal name id. the chance of her not when the nomination is next to impossible. she is going to be the nominee barring something outrageous -- whether she gets sick, whateve

first, bernie sanders.ght be our favorite way to tell the world you are running for president. walk outside your office, say you only have a few minutes and speak your mind. here is bernie being bernie. bernie: how does it happen that the top 1% owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90%? my conclusion is that that type of economics is not only immoral and wrong, it is unsustainable. it cannot continue. we cannot continue having a nation in which we have the highest rate of childhood poverty of any major nation on earth at the same time we are seeing a proliferation of millionaires and billionaires. mark: bernie sanders does talk about other issues, but how potent will that core economic message be with democrats in caucuses and primaries? al: "the national review" has to be popping the champagne corks. we have heard for how many years -- democrats are socialists. now they have one. bernie is the real deal. i think there is a genuine appeal, populist appeal in america, anti-wall street, anti-big bank, ant

i like senator sanders. think he is left of left, and while that might play well in vermont, i do not know, even among democratic primary voters, how that will play. host: what is the goal of his campaign? guest: have you ever met bernie sanders? this is a guy with something to say, and this is an opportunity for him on a national scale to say some of the things he wants to say. he has definitive opinions about wash it, corporate america, how he feels the american middle class and the poor are being left hind on our government can't -- by our government. this is his chance to stand up and say what he feels. he will get attention because we only have two official at this point. host: later today we will have three and c-span will be covering it. guest: on what the republicans who have some of between eight and 27, it is harder for them to get their message out, but if you're a democrat, it is a wide-open field and it is a chance to have a bully pulpit and have some cameras. guest: one of the things is hillary

it is not just bernie sanders. i wonder if it is possible for any candidate who is not a billionaire or who is not beholden to the billionaire class to be able to run successful campaigns. if that is the case, i want you all to recognize what a sad state of affairs that is for american democracy. >> what stances do you have on issues that make you a better nominee than hillary clinton? sen. sanders: we do not know what her stances are on all the issues, but this is what i can tell you -- i voted against the war in iraq. not only did i vote against it i helped lead the effort and are in many of the things i said back then turned out to be true. massive destabilization in the region. i am helping lead the effort against the transpacific partnership because i believe it continues a trend of horrendous trade policies which have cost us billions of decent-paying jobs. i helped lead the effort against the keystone pipeline because i do not think we should be transporting some of the dirtiest fuel in the world. we have be

congressman sander levin: i am not sure. we have been at this -- we have extended the highway program how many times on a short-term basis. and i hope that whether it is during two months or six or seven months that we face up to this problem. when we duck the issue of infrastructure or transportation or highways, we are doing it a disservice in terms of jobs, in terms of economic growth. and so we simply have to face up to it. and i have talked with chairman ryan. he and i have talked about this. and i hope during these next month, whether it is two months or six or seven months, that we will essentially get serious about this because we keep on extending, extending, extending, and that is a reflection of the polarization within our ranks. and i hope we can really get together. host: congressman, you hope, but you don't sound confident. should americans expect another short-term solution? congressman sander levin: i think americans should say to congress -- face up to the need for a long-term solution. vicki needham: congre

congressman sander levin: well it is fast-track. what it means is that the negotiating is being done. and all we have at the end is yes or no. we can't do any amendment. so that makes it all the more important that we get tpp right before we fast-track it. and we don't lose our leverage. that is what this is really all about. i am in favor of expanded trade. i would like to see a tpp i could support, but right now, i cannot because that is why tpa is having trouble because tpp is not on the right track. host: congressman, before we go too far, tpp, tpa, you have to explain those outside of washington. congressman sander levin: tpa, trade promotion authority, that is what is called fast-track. what it means is the negotiating is undertaken by ustr, by the trade representative. and at the end, all congress can do is to say yes or no. there is the argument that we could withdraw it, but we have that power now. and that is why there are other techniques to withdraw, but that is not going to happen because we can already do it. host: and

a next door neighbor state for bernie sanders. the voters in iowa, the voters in new hampshire, these are the types of voters he is accustom to appealing to. he has a message to resinate to lower income rural voters. so the path of bernie sanders to the nomination, that's very difficult to see. the path to bernie sanders making some serious noise in iowa and new hampshire and causing some serious headaches for hillary clinton in iowa and new hampshire, that's not as hard to see. >> the -- bernie sanders faces a similar challenge that robert kennedy faced when he ran and gene mccarthy faced within the party, which is they didn't want to in any kind of personal kind of way attack president johnson. bernie sanders took a page right out of bobby kennedy's play book today saying this is not about hillary clinton and it's not about anyone else in the race. let's listen to the way bobby kennedy said this about president johnson back when he made his announcement. >> my decision reflects no personal animosity or disrespect toward presiden

bernie sanders: no, that is punditry. weeks from now, we will deal with other issues, for example, over time so people who work more than 40 hours a week get paid. the trade agreement in my mind is a very bad idea. president obama follows president clinton in -- and bush and reagan in pushing the corporate agenda. they are wrong. i think the american people want it defeated. we need new trade agreements that protect american workers and not just wall street and corporate america. mark: the agenda that you laid out will require republican votes p are in are you optimistic and would your message to the president be, let the deal go down but let's all find a way for both parties to work on this agenda or is that not possible? bernie sanders: let's work on a new fundamental approach to a trade. in the meantime, let us rally the american people. the american people are clear and what they want is to rebuild the crime brought -- crumbling infrastructure. let's work on that. the american people want to raise the minimum wage to

steve, how much impact will bernie sanders have?rnie sanders is most likely of any of the non-hillary candidates on the democratic side to give hillary fits in this democratic proses. >> shira, how much impact will he have? >> i think he could bring hillary clinton to the left. it's possible he places third or even second in iowa and new hampshire. i'm with jamal. i think the greatest impact he'll have on the race is on martin o'malley because there's a bigger ideological difference between bernie sanders and hillary clinton than there is between hillary clinton and martin o'malley. >> jamal, the impact of bernie sanders? >> he divides up the opposition and keeps hillary clinton from having to have a head-to-head contest and allows her to come through with 50%, 55% of the vote or 48% of the vote and win all these caw south carolinaes and primaries. >> steve karnacky shira center and jamal simmons, thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks. >> make sure you watch steve on "up" right here at 8:00 a.m. eastern right here on msnbc. >>>

he's the next door neighbor bernie sanders is.f those cities and towns, the connecticut river valley. the voters there are very similar to the voters he's appealed to in vermont. i'm not saying he's going to win those two states but those two states are favorable climates for him. >> well how does the most amiable guy in the world say don't underestimate me? how are we supposed to interpret that? >> well, i look at it -- you look at his career first of all, and the fact that at the age of 73, he's standing here now running for president is an unlikely political career in every way. so the odds that he faces right now, he's clearly under it. he has no illusions about what he's up against. but i think if you talk to the people around him, i think what they'd like to get to, and i don't think it's unrealistic, is can they get to a moment where it really is a one-on-one race bernie sanders versus hillary clinton, and put that contrast out there and see what happens. >> he's going to be a tough one to dedebate isn't he? >> he knows the

senator sanders: thank you. [applause] ♪ >> we apologize for that, the video had some problems at the and of that speech. bernie sanders entering the democratic race. we are opening up our phone lines to hear your thoughts of what he brings to the presidential race. we do apologize about the video going in and out. here's how to join the conversation. you can also leave your comments at facebook.com/cpsspan. and can also send us a tweet. but let's hear from you, what does bernie sanders, the second into the democratic race have for you? caller: i am really into his devout this is what the republicans -- they should've gotten rid of holder a long time ago. they sold us out. i'm very upset. giving millions of dollars to foreign countries when we starving here. i wish my party would get it back home -- a backbone is stop cowering to special interests. host: bernie sanders coming onto the stage a little bit earlier than expected. we will show you the holes each a little bit later. caller: i am so fired up and excite

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the problem he has is that sanders has outflanked him.ders has turned out to be the hip and cool candidate and the one most aggressively going after hillary clinton. and he has turned out to be the liberal inheriting the elizabeth warren mantle. o'malley has his work cut out for him. john: we will have our joint scouting report coming out tomorrow. on martin o'malley. we both agree on this. he is a guy that has positioned himself a little to the left of hillary clinton, but not far enough to the left to capture the heart of the far left of the party. he needs an economic platform this is more distinct from hillary clinton and as distinctive as bernie sanders' platform or else he will not have enough of a chance to pick up insurgent votes on the far left. mark: here's the thing about martin o'malley -- he is super talented. there have been almost no days this year where he has shown how talented he is. there is a reason why bill clinton singled him out years ago as somebody that can be president someday. he has to show that on a regular ba

bernie sanders is the ultimate anti-politician. >> it's not like bernie sanders is a dogcatcher. he's united states senator. >> just moments from now at 5:00 eastern time the democratic presidential field will officially double. speaking from his hometown of burlington, vermont, independent senator bernie sanders will announce his candidacy as a democrat for president of the united states. what does this mean for the newly enlarged democratic field? senator sanders, a self-described democratic socialist, started his political career by defeating a five-term democratic burlington mayor during the height of reagan era anti-communist zeal. sanders proceeded to make good will visits to the soviet union and to cuba and to establish a sister city with the communist nicaragua. he buses seniors into canada to buy cheaper prescription drugs. but in the context of presidential primaries, today's pressing question is will he give hillary clinton a hard time? so far, the answer seems to be yes. sanders, the presidential candidate, has already proposed free tuition at all public colleges alon

bernie sanders is the ultimate anti-politician. >> it's not like bernie sanders is a dogcatcher.t 5:00 eastern time the democratic presidential field will officially double. speaking from his hometown of burlington, vermont, independent senator bernie sanders will announce his candidacy as a democrat for president

more from senator sanders eannouncement speed? >> there's something profoundly wrong with the 101/10 of 1% owns as much wealth as the bottom 90%. this grotesque level of inequality is immoral. it is bad economics. it is unsustainable. wall street can not continue to be an island unto itself gambling trillions in risky financial instruments while expecting the public to bail it out. if a bank is too big to fail that bank is too big to exist. >> i'm joined now by the "globe" editorial director for the huffington post howard fineman and the former chair of the republican national committee michael steele. howard, the last part of it grabbed me too big to fail too big to exist. that's something that people can say whether it's glass/steagall whatever it is something has to be done structurally about the american economy to make us safe. >> chris whatever the labels might be on bernie sanders. >> calls himself a socialist. >> whatever people identify with or call themselves a lot of things that he talked about today, raising the minimu

[applause] senator sanders: let me be clear.his campaign is not about bernie sanders, it is not about hillary clinton clinton, it is not about jeb bush or anyone else in this campaign is about the needs of the american people . and the ideas and proposals that effectively address those people. as someone who has never run a negative political ads in my life -- [applause] my campaign will not be driven by political gossip, or reckless personal attacks. [applause] senator sanders: this is what the american people want and deserve. these are serious times, we need serious debate. [applause] senator sanders: politics in a democratic society should not be treated as if it were a baseball game, a game show, or a soap opera. and i hope the media understands that as well. [applause] senator sanders: let me take a minute to touch on some of the issues that i will be focusing on in the coming months. and then give you a brief outline of an agenda for america, an agenda which in fact will deal with these serious problem's and lead us to a

start with bernie sanders. guest: his entry into the race makes the democratic nomination battle more interesting. hillary clinton is way ahead and the chances are high she gets the nomination. his voice will be elevated in the debate about the democratic party. it the progressive wing of the party was wanting elizabeth warren to get in. and away, he is a surrogate for elizabeth warren. he has been an independent for decade and has succeeded politically in that way. he is a very rare bird in washington. he and hillary differ on health care, he once single-payer. she wants to make obamacare better. on trade, huge split in the party. hillary clinton as secretary of state was instrumental in the asia-pacific trade deal that the president wants and some democrats are against it. the unions don't like it and bernie sanders is dead set against it. i also want to respond to the collar on the question of money. it's true that he is not going to raise the money hillary will, i don't think that ceiling reason he can't ge

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sanders coming out on top. bit more right now of that built in grass roots appeal. that's going to be a challenge. >> yeah and that may change starting saturday. steve thank you for being with me. you can catch steve saturday and sunday mornings at 8:00 eastern on msnbc. up next we're going to zoom through the other stories making news including the fbis threats to commercial airliners and check this out. a pink iguana. there's one known colony of them in the entire world and they're facing a huge threat to their existence. we'll tell you next on the run down. your pet... could you love him any more? probably not. but now you can give them even more when you save with sentry® fiproguard® plus. with sentry® fiproguard® plus, your pet is just as protected against fleas and ticks as with frontline® plus. because sentry® fiproguard® plus has the same active ingredients but costs less than vet prices. and saving money helps you buy... (laughs happily) more tennis balls. sentry® fiproguard® plus - available at these

now you see bernie sanders, the challenge.he approach from bernie sanders to hillary clinton. what's the level of access that you have to the sanders campaign? >> reporter: yeah, quite different to say the least. it's hard to find two politicians more different. hillary clinton running a very scripted tightly core graphed campaign. sanders is the politician that doesn't look like a politician doesn't sound like a politician and doesn't want to be seen as a politician. in terms of access we could talk to him right now if we wanted to. you can come up to him after events, he'll shake hands, talk to people. you can grab him in the hallway. he wants to get his message out. running for president is about that. he'll talk to the media when he can to serve that purpose. >> hillary clinton is down in south carolina tomorrow. it's her first 4a south. that's not clearly comfortable place for her in the past. she's had difficulty against president obama in south carolina. she wants to make an early run to this early primary state. >> rep

let's meet whoever bernie sanders is! (laughter) no, that's actually -- that's colonel sanders.et's meet -- deion sanders. (laughter) that -- (laughter) that's ned flanders. sure. sure, that's bernie sanders. all right, fine. (laughter) there we go! how will this two-term senator this eight-term representative, this full-term curmudgeon battle the incredibly powerful clinton machine? >> let me just make a brief comment and i will be happy to take a few questions. we don't have an endless amount of time. i've got to get back. (laughter) >> jon: with charm! (laughter) that was his presidential campaign announcement. not so much yes we can and more like let's just get this over with. i'm a busy man! busy running is anti-hillary. he's a centrist he's a leftist. her campaign is managed to a t! he forgot his comb! (laughter) she has almost 100% name recognition! he is somewhat lesser known! (laughter) she has a private server in her home where she deleted tens of thousands of her own e-mails. he owns a vhs copy of tootsie. (laughter) she has a set of consistent principles that he has

sanders' campaign. i would like to see elizabeth warren because she is a fighter for what she believes in. but since she is not running, i will support senator sanders. the reason i will do that is this country is totally rigged in favor of the very wealthy. there is nothing wrong with being wealthy but -- for the last 20, 30 years, the middle class cannot get their head above water and the rich 1% is getting richer and richer and having a much bigger slice of the pie while everyone else is struggling. it is complicated. in europe, there was a time of plenty -- before i finished, i want to tell you one more thing, ma'am. the republicans, all of their billionaire supporters say sanders is a socialist. it is not socialism -- it is just being fair and dismantling the rigged system. thank you very much for taking my call. host: before you go, you said you wanted elizabeth warren because you thought she could really fight for what she believes in. caller: yes. host: hold on, do you doubt the fight in bernie

the poll, clinton at 57%, and sanders at 15%, and o'malley with barely a pulse at 1%. at this point in 2007, barack obama was real. in a cnn poll it was 38% to 34%. and o'malley is at 1%. what is the rational for them? barack obama did have a difference with her over iraq, and on health care and wanted single payer and to the left of her, and she is a clinton and we don't want to go back, and is she is a clinton, we don't want to go back all they have? >> we heard bernie sandals and he will be the vessel for every liberal hope and dream and he may be a candidate for the summer of 2015 which is a different thing than being the nominee. they are going to push her connections on wall street and talk about how genuine she has moved on some of the positions, gay marriage and she has evolved over the last couple weeks as well, and what they have focused on, iowa, they need to win the iowa caucuses. no winner of the iowa caucuses over 50% if they were not already a sitting president. somebody may want to send hillary clinton a message to make sure she is not ready for a core

sanders: let me be clear -- this campaign is not about bernie sanders, hillary clinton, jeb bush, or and the ideas and proposals that effectively address those needs. as someone who has never run a negative political ad in my life, my campaign will not be driven by political gossip or reckless personal attacks. this is what the american people want and deserve. these are serious times, we need serious debates. [cheers and applause] sen. sanders: politics in a democratic society should not be treated as if it were a baseball game, a game show, or a soap opera. and i hope the media understand s -- understands that as well. [cheers and applause] sen. sanders: let me take a minute to touch on some of the issues that i will be focused on in the coming months. and then give you a brief outline of an agenda for america. an agenda which, in fact, will deal with these serious problems and lead us to a better future. today, we live in a nation which is the wealthiest nation in the history of the world. but that reality means very little for most of us because almost all of that wealth is owned

kim, bernie sanders first. how serious should democrats take him? >> you almost feel sorry for bernie, paul. here he jumps into it razzas a self-prescribed socialist. all his policies tickle progressives yet when he made his announcement these groups on the left said it's nice bernie got in but we want elizabeth. that's a reference to elizabeth warren the massachusetts senator. that's who they see as a person who is ride in on their issues and bernie sanders, he's just not their guy. >> well he's 73 years old, and he doesn't have a huge following other than what he gets on msnbc and cable tv if you listen to him. >> a relatively unknown senator can build hillary for the nomination. that's not his problem. i think his problem is he's looking for people who have problems with obama. he's not liberal enough. >> the people who are his natural constituency are already in the camp of somebody else. >> so what is it that he's going to run on? what do the liberals want? >> it's interesting, because as a devout socialist, you would think there would be a gre

guest: the press loves bernie sanders. not because of his positions but because he is willing to engage. hillary clinton has felt that the presses out to get her. she is leery of the press. she wants to do a reset of her relationship with the press. host: has that happened? guest: hard to say. guest: a reset comes from the top. that is hillary clinton, does she want that? it's not clear. most of the questions she has taken were shouted at her. the number of questions you are taking. then carson is doing interviews. bernie sanders can't get off the phone. hillary clinton won't take any questions at all. jeb bush has been fairly available. scott walker less so. guest: where they are placing in the polls, there isn't inverse proportion. i think rubio is fairly accessible. he is doing well in the polls. host: let's go to laura in pennsylvania. caller: good morning. i want to say rush limbaugh made a very good point about the first black president. i think republicans need to make a big deal about being the first female or the

i agree with senator sanders. i find it hard to believe that hillary clinton can't come to some kind of conclusion on this an absolute. not a parameter of what she's looking for. the clinton campaign is hoping that the house will vote on fast track asap so they don't have to deal with this issue anymore. clinton's refusal to take a stand on certain issues is starting to chip away at her lead in the polls as well. over the past month, i know we're a long way away but she's going in the wrong direction. hillary clinton lost three points on the lead. bernie sanders jumped 7 points. now at 15%. is this a trend or a bump? with 8 months to go. politico reported hillary clinton's campaign is frightened of sanders. not that he would win the nomination but he could damage her with the activist base by challenging her on core progressive positions and debates and make her look like a centerist. isn't that what campaigns are about? frightened about the truth? i find that hard to believe. it's not just trade. hillary clinton

senator known for his outspokenness bernie sanders is making it official today. the vermont lawmaker is running for president. sanders is promising, quote, a political revolution against the billionaires who he says have hijacked the political system. sanders says he wants to ignite grass roots fires among democrats who are weary of hillary clinton. >>> i'm nikki burdine live in prince george's county. happening today at cool springs elementary school, a rally filled with people who say people need to be investing in prince george's county schools. how? with a property tax increase. as we reported before, not a lot of people were happy with it. it turns out there are some people who say it is a good idea. this plan was put into motion

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and senator bernie sanders joins us. welcome to this week. why are you the best choice for president of the united states. >> for the last 30 years i have been standing up for the working families of this country and i think i'm the only candidate prepared to take on the billionaire class which controls our economy and the political life of this country. we need a political revolution in this country involving millions of people prepared to stand up and say enough is enough. >> does that mean hillary clinton is part of the billionaire class? >> it means that hillary clinton has been part of the political establishment for many many years. i have known hillary for 25 years. i respect her and i like her. but i think what the american people are saying george is that at a time when 99% of all new income is going to the top 1% and when the top 1/10 of 1% owns almost as much warmth as the bottom 90% maybe it's time for political shakeup in this country and go beyond establishment politics. >> you're asking for a lot of shakeup. is it possible for

bernie sanders may be specific.ut there is martin o'mallery or jim webb having the mainstream attraction. but their numbers are not much better than sanders. but it is the sparring element that you are pecking up and discussion of issues that are interest in the democratic bias. that's where sanders can play an important role. >> we'll continue to watch. >> do you think that senator sanders is a serious candidate and is he ignored bee the democrats and media. go to fox news opinion com/"happening now". >> and a man accused of trying to hire a hit man to killing his wife. and you will not believe his defense. and police chase down a suspect in the freeways. right in the middle of a holiday bar-b-que. just stay calm and move as quietly as possible. no sudden movements. google search: bodega beach house. >> a high speed police chase in los angeles and finishing in dramatic fashion right by a family's holiday celebration. it went through several neighborhoods in los angeles. the driver was wanted in connection with a bu

i like senator sanders. think he is left of left, and while that might play well in vermont, i do not know, even among democratic primary voters, how that will play. host: what is the goal of his campaign? guest: have you ever met bernie sanders? this is a guy with something to say, and this is an opportunity for him on a national scale to say some of the things he wants to say. he has definitive opinions about wash it, corporate america, how he feels the american middle class and the poor are being left hind on our government can't -- by our government. this is his chance to stand up and say what he feels. he will get attention because we only have two official at this point. host: later today we will have three and c-span will be covering it. guest: on what the republicans who have some of between eight and 27, it is harder for them to get their message out, but if you're a democrat, it is a wide-open field and it is a chance to have a bully pulpit and have some cameras. guest: one of the things is hillary

host: bernie sanders is 73. guest: the first important point is the optics around why she's running. is she running because she is so ambitious that she just can't help herself or is she running because she wants to do good things for this nation? you're going to get a different answer from just about everybody you talk to. and one thing that drives me a little nuts about hillary clinton and the advisors around her is that they don't know they have that problem. or if they do know, they're not doing much to address it. let's talk about the age back to her. what is really interesting here is that hillary clinton is 68 so it is not like with all of the respective 68-year-olds, she is a spring chicken. joe biden, 72. the last three presidents of the u.s. were 44 when they were elected. is america ready for grandma and chief? i don't know. and that's going to be a really big question in this election. guest: and my guys are going to say because of ambition and she's been doing this since 2005 and that's why she's wa

but bernie sanders is fwoernor bernie sanders. a democrat when he wants to be obviously, going into this race but look he's going to hurt hillary to help himself. >> wait a minute. bernie sanders is not out for bernie sanders. i know the man. >> come on. please. >> what's he out for? >> i think he really has principles that he truly believes in. i know the guy. i have a report on radio stations in vermont for years. i know this guy. >> he definitely wanted to stick to very serious issues meaning the vote that he voted against in the iraq war. he spoke of his leadership against the trans-pacific partnership trade deal which clinton's state department team worked on as you know. he also talked about his strong opposition to the keystone xl pipeline which was a lead role the state department played if reviewing the project when hillary was in the state department. all of these issues are very passionate to him. >> absolutely. that is what he sees his role in this race to be. not himself. >> so then brad would you believe that perhaps

vote for sanders in the primary and vote for hillary in november. a lot of democrats are saying that. he has a potential to make a bit of a showing in some states. >> john, bernie sanders and i were in -- fought shoulder to shoulder against and a nafta and hoffman and everyone. but i will say bernie, i mean, he's standing up and he's right about the transnational corporations. they take all these jobs abroad and bring their products back free of charge. and everybody at the top makes an awful lot of money. the way to change that is put a tariff on the products coming back into the country, cut the taxes on signal businesses that produce in -- small businesses that produce in the country and some of these fat cats will come running home. >> bernie sanders talks about the language of make making the rich pay their fair share. the way to address income and inequality is to address social mobility. he has this idea of a socialist utopia. the problem is it doesn't work. >> the real problem is, the simple upward mobility that we had when i was a kid, we a

and martin o'malley that seriously except on msnbc. >> today belongs to bernie sanders. he is treated like a good fly who zips only to pester hillary clinton's move to the left during the primaries but bernie sanders has been bucking that. >> the republican field glows larger with rick santorum and george pataki jumping in but are they be dismissed as also rans? >> it will not an good run for someone like rick san form around for a long-term who has come in nearly last. >> today rick santorum announced the rage of another losing santorum for president campaign. >> maybe news outlets are trying to win know the crowded field. >> and women's magazine swooning over the potential first female president and one editor donating to her campaign. are they in the tank for her? a look at the dennis hastert indictment? should the source report on past sex abuse based on unknown services. >> and "washington post" reporter accused of trumped up charges in iran. >> he is hanging it up after half a century a folksy anchor who remained friendly with the politicians he interviewed. a conv

john: there is something sanders about a candidate who knows he is not going to win. it allows him to not hedge, not take the big money. speak their hardened ideology. mark: everybody is working for the weekend. if you are a republican resident hopeful you are working on the weekend. jeb bush commenced a speech on faith at liberty university. in our poll today, jeb bush gets 11% on the leaderboard. bush is looking for some big push grade did he achieve what he wanted to achieve? john: no, i think. in the sense that he put down a marker for where he is on a and said some things that will appeal to some on the right of the party, it was fine. i was not blown away by a presentation only. i don't think he got a huge amount of cover. it didn't dominate cable news. he's not like he has been with robot coverage on it. that with roadblock coverage on it. -- with roadblock coverage on it. mark: he has to figure up how to get a bigger slice of parts of the conservative movement. the tea party is one thing. he interview with making kelly tonight. part of the reason they didn't a