sanders: you're right. if you look at people who have given up looking for work and people who work part-time, real unemployment is close to 10%. and here's something else we do not talk about at all, the media has nothing to say about it, that is youth unemployment in this country, kids are graduated high school between 17-20, if those kids are white, 33% are unemployed or underemployed, latino 36%, african-american 51%. and if anyone here thinks there is not a direct correlation between that outrageously high rate of youth unemployment and the fact that we have more people in jail than in any other country, you would be missing an important point. here is radical idea number two, we are going to invest in our people, and jobs and education, not jails and incarceration. [applause] >> bernie, bernie, bernie -- [applause] sen. sanders: and real unemployment is almost 10%, and when we have an infrastructure which is collapsing in many parts of this country -- i was in flint, michigan the other day. let me jus

sanders, 11% for sanders.up 19 pertz of the electorate. so again, we're seeing the real -- the youngest and the oldest voters upping participation from what we saw in nevada eight years ago and we're seeing this divide we've seen play out even to a greater degree than we've seen. >> we are seeing the divide but to your point about the older voters being a larger portion of the elincoln tor rat that is good news for hillary clinton. >> right. when you are -- what is that, that's 44, 45-point spread. you are winning a group by 45 points and it makes up a larger share than the group he is winning by i don't know, 70 points or whatever, 73 points, yes, that gives them some hope but again, he's winning the younger voters by a larger margin and she is winning the older voters. yes, there are more older voters but this is something we'll continue to see play out as well. >> it is a we've been talking about the past several months, when you have somebody never mind his age, he is 74, really appealing to the hope of yo

sanders: i am going to tell them.nator sanders: people say, people say, you know, and america, we should think small. we should not have ambition by making colleges free, reducing significantly student debt. that is not a radical idea. that is not a radical idea. it already exists in many countries around the world. everyone needs to understand, that for us to succeed, we need the best educated workforce in the world. some of my critics say, well, bernie, that is a great idea. you are like santa claus, giving away a lot of free things. doing what i propose is not free. it is $70 billion a year. how will we pay for it? i will tell you how to pay for it with this proposal. when the greed and recklessness and illegal behavior on wall street nearly destroyed our economy, and when wall street came running to congress for a bailout, the middle class gave them their bailout. now, it is wall street's time to help the middle class. [applause] senator sanders: that is why we are going to pay for this proposal through a tax on w

sanders: when the u.s. congress, against my vote bailed out wall street, they did so because of the fear that the big banks were too big to fail. it turns out that today, three out of the four largest banks are bigger now than they were when we build them out to go -- because they were too big to fail. [booing] sen. sanders: turns out that the six largest banks in america have assets equivalent to 58% of the gdp in america, they issue two thirds of the credit cards, one third of the mortgages. in my view, when you have a handful of financial entities, so big, so powerful, so politically connected, what we must do is break them up. [applause] sen. sanders: six years ago, the supreme court rendered one of the worst decisions in the history of the united states of america. and what they said to the billionaires, in wall street and 11 america, you already own much -- in much of america, you already own much of the economy, now, we're going to give you the opportunity to buy the united states government's, and t

sanders: when the u.s.ongress, against my vote bailed out wall street, they did so because of the fear that the big banks were too big to fail. it turns out that today, three out of the four largest banks are bigger now than they were when we build them out to go -- because they were too big to fail. [booing] sen. sanders: turns out that the six largest bank of america have assets equivalent to 58% of the gdp in america, they issue two thirds of the credit cards, one third of the mortgages. in my view, when you have a handful of financial entities, so big, so powerful, so politically connected, what we must do is break them up. [applause] sen. sanders: six years ago, the supreme court rendered one of the worst decisions in the history of the united states of america. and what they said to the billionaires, in wall street and 11 america, you already own much of the economy, now, we're going to give you the opportunity to buy the united states government's, and that is precisely what they are trying to do. ri

if you were counseling bernie sanders. you suggest he wait until later hours, or that he come down now and give a speech in sort of prime time. >> i think he should come down now and give his speech. he has to win new hampshire to keep going, he should feel good about what he did in iowa. he really -- what would have been better would have been a decisive win, he would have had a ton of momentum. this is going to be a tie. >> we have to take a quick break. when we come back, we believe bernie sanders will be ready to speak. you can fly across welcome town in minutes16, or across the globe in under an hour. whole communities are living on mars and solar satellites provide earth with unlimited clean power. in less than a century, boeing took the world from seaplanes to space planes, across the universe and beyond. and if you thought that was amazing, you just wait. ♪ text mom. i'll be right back. be good. boys have been really good today. send. let's get mark his own cell phone. nice. send. brad could use a new bike. send. [

>> for sanders. netwise.or the ones that weren't there. >> so that brings, john, a certain advantage right now. that's good news for bernie sanders obviously in this important county, linn county. >> yes. we've been tracking it mostly by the percentages all night because it's easier to explain to our viewers. for the campaigns they track them by delegates to the state convention. it's a multitiered process. they go to the state convention then they elect to the state convention delegates that go on to the national convention. if bernie sanders picked up one more from linn county that puts him more in contention. as we pull out, come to the whole state, essentially, if he gets one more, that would get him a little bit -- 667 to 670. and then we're still over here in polk county. let me turn the telestrator on so i can bring that up. still here in polk county where the bulk of the vote still outstanding is. you get one that's a plus. >> thanks very much for that update. let's check in with polk county. some out

bernie sanders 24.3%. she has 131,320 votes right now. bernie sanders only 42,517. want to go over to jonhn king. a lot of people were expecting an impressive win for hillary clinton tonight in south carolina. but 50 points, that is huge. remember, barack obama carried the state eight years ago against hillary clinton by 28 points. >> this is not a victory. it's a thrashing. and it's a message. this is the democratic base for the first time in the state. the majority african-american vote. and hillary clinton is sending a message to bernie sanders and to the country essentially say rg you a protest candidate or can you compete? tonight she's sending a clear message. look at the map filling in. you notice anything? there's no bernie sanders. he's not even winning a county in the state. if we go back in time, hillary clinton lost in a three way race with john edwards. as you go into these counties, clinton getting 20% here, clinton getting 20% here, clinton getting 17% here. obama had a clear victory in the swath where you have the highest american percentage. i could

donald sanders one big and -- won big and bernie sanders won big. sanders in the not-too-distant future and we expect to hear from bernie sanders as well. >> this is all of the stuff from our era but room full of college students. he is appealing across the lines there. >> that is exactly as he cuts through there. as janet pointed out, his strength in the college towns in new hampshire, you could perhaps say he is a neighboring politician. of course, he is from a nearby vermont, but he did well in iowa. >> it is interesting how the bernie sanders machine, if you will, had been trying to get the vote out. they are encouraging my daughter in massachusetts to register there. they are making this happen and they are making sure that that machine is in overdrive in making a night like this happen, and they want to see a repeat like that happen all over the country. >> what you are watching as they setting the backdrop from bernie speech. hillary clinton will make an trump as well. the big question tonight, what will hampton -- what will happen in new hampshire for number two, number three, n

bernie sanders was the at large congress member then a u.s.or from vermont, one of the whitest states in america. so goes the thinking, the map looks good for the former secretary of state. the action this week testing that assumption has been fast and furious. the political action committee of the congressional black caucus endorsed hillary clinton, keith ellison and others endorsed bernie sanders. secretary clinton and her husband the former president, are the fast friends of black america. the daughter of eric garner who died during a confrontation with the nypd, endorsed sanders. clinton and sanders met in a debate last night in milwaukee. sanders related the issue with black america as persistent gaps. >> if you have african american poverty rates of 35%. when you have youth unemployment at 51%, when you have unbelievable rates of incarceration, which by the way, leaves the children back home without a dad or even a mother, clearly, we are looking at institutional racism. we are looking at an economy in which the rich get richer and the p

she's at bernie sanders headquarters in new hampshire. >> i'm here at the bernie sanders crowd in newampshire, i step away for a second. this is about the most jubilant project we can imagine. we were told that bernie sanders would be out here at the top of the hour at 9 o'clock. his crowd is filing in, coming through the secret service protectioning an indication that bernie sanders is somebody in this race. he's a serious challenger. he warrants secret service protection. that happened after the iowa caucuses. what happened next, we talked about nevada, and south carolina. i want to get off script a little bit. i have been in new hampshire the last knew days, and there was a democratic group allied with the hillary clinton campaign. i went to a marco rubio event the other day. they weren't going after anyone but marco rubio. it's american bridge, funded by george soros, david brock plays a role in that. he's a long-time clinton operative behind media matters. they are following marco rubio around, picking up on the robot mem that began after the debate. why? the hillary clinton camp

senator sanders: i'm bernie sanders and i approve this message. >> one were to look at the qualifications of the candidates and reflect on what our country can be and get us to that place, i think it's hands down, hillary clinton. >> hillary is the only candidate i trust and not rip it away. my heart has always been with hillary clinton. mr. mcclintock: i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message. >> no fresh clean water source. >> we can't drink the water. >> we can't bathe with the water or cook with the water. >> nobody heard our story. >> i am here because for nearly two years, flint's water was poisonned. >> hillary clinton came here and she is standing with us. >> brought it to another level of attention. hillary clinton it what has been happening in flint. i think we all know we would have had a solution yesterday. >> hillary clinton really cares about people. >> she's awesome when you have someone like that fighting for you, you can't ask for much more. mr. mcclintock: and i will fight r you in -- i approve this message. >> c-span's campaign 2016 is taking you on the road to th

what it seemed to me bernie sanders try to do, the most damaging thing for sanders, she is the rightfulrack obama for legacy, and things that he has written on twitter, the fining progressivism -- defining progressivism in a way that excludes president obama. clintonhink the campaign understands they may be onto something here? margaret: i think they absolutely understand the potential power of it. the question is, is it a powerful tool ahead of the heavilywhere there are black voting populations, or a better, broader message in areas with working-class voters? they do seem to have assessed it should work to their advantage ahead of south carolina. the question -- and we will see after we see the results in south carolina -- is it a message that has legs beyond there? mark: once upon a time, people thought that hillary clinton could wrap this nomination up in february. what you think is the best case for hillary clinton going up into march with these two contest, or in terms of the outcomes and the symbolic place that she could be asserting clear dominance? carolina,in south it's not ju

for sanders. >> right.re are two things any to talk about. one, the horrific thing that happened over the we can with gloria steinem and madeleine albright where they said stuff that was just so incredibly offensive and foolish. i tweeted out as soon as i heard the comments by gloria steinem and operator said, oh, my god, hillary clinton is bringing the worst out of the women i admire. that is what i tweeted. and more important than that, it is not just the statements that were made that somehow say to women, you have an obligation to vote for hillary clinton, this is your job, but i want to remind everyone, in the state of new hampshire where hillary clinton is running in the first primary, this is a state that has elected women to every single major political office in the state. governor, congress, speaker of the house, president of the senate, head of the new hampshire supreme court. we have seen the good, the bad, and the ugly of women. we now have experience with that. and that is in some ways been li

[cheers and applause] senator sanders: when you do some these polls, which has bernie sanders against trump or hillary clinton against trump, almost all of those polls have us beating trump by wider margins. [cheers and applause] now, ohio, as you all know, is one of the important political states in this country. you're having a primary here on march 15. with your help we can win this primary and help us go forward to victory. [applause] senator sanders: now, i think the reason that we have come so far and are doing so well is pretty simple. we're doing something very, very radical. we're telling the american people the truth. now i know that is a radical idea, but, hey -- and that is what we are saying is, look, before this country, before any country is you got to really look honestly at the problems and the realities even if they are unpleasant realities. you know, unless you lock what goes on, you don't have a foundation in which to go forward. and what we have been doing in this campaign is listening to ordinary people, not just big money contributors. we are listening to millio

sanders: climate change is caused human activity. [applause] change isrs: climate already doing devastating harm in this country and around the world. that is the fact. [applause] let -- sen. sanders: let me tell you something else, in terms of what science has said, they say that if we do not get our act together and a very short window of opportunity, this planets, by the end of this century, is going to be 5-10 degrees fahrenheit warmer, more droughts, more floods, more extreme weather disturbances, more a certification of the ocean. more rising sea levels, more international conflict as people fight over limited natural resource is. now, let me tell you this, as well. the reason that republicans refuse to recognize the scientists, is not because they are done, not because they cannot read science. the reason has everything to do with a corrupt campaign finance system. [applause] sen. sanders: if a republican candidate for president came up here and told you what i just told you, that climate change is real, caused by human activi

senator sanders winning by 6 points out there. across the rural north senator sanders winning.lation so this is not going to have a dramatic impact on the statewide vote totals. it will in the end what nevada democrats are electing today or delegates to the state convention. the state convention picks delegates to the national convention you look at how the map fills in now, at the moment it looks like secretary clinton if she is holding that narrow lead if she wins, if she wins state wide it looks like a pretty even delegate split. remember, this is 2016 back to 2008. the dark is senator clinton, the lighter blue is senator obama at the time in 2008. she won by 6 points statewide then it was a split actually slight obama advantage in delegates to the democratic national convention after they sorted this process out in part because he won so many other areas of the state. we watch the rest of the vote come in here there is no question senator sanders is holding his own in the rural area secretary clinton in clark county. up to 55%. in the course of this conversation from 53 to

sanders does not.illary voted in favor of the iraq war while sanders voted against it could hillary's . hillary's husband is basically responsible for the permanent low-wage economy because he voted for the repeal of glass-steagall and nafta and giving china the most favored trading nation status. host: we will have ann selzer answer your first question. guest: our final paul gets into less death because our turnaround -- final poll gets depth because our turnaround is so quick to we want to know if things are coulding candidates hillary clinton made a comment about her e-mails and that the only time she heard about them was from the press. on the campaign trail, people don't care. we turned that into a poll question to find out if you do care. it was a huge number that said no, in fact, they don't. we are looking for ways of understanding what are the potential problems that candidates are going to face down the road and what are the potential advantages that they hold that makes people want to stick

sanders is leading clinton by 20 points. bernie sanders has a hold over the youth vote. he has 76% of support of voters under 30. hillary clinton only grabs a majority of voters over the age of 60. typically clinton does well among democratic voters. here, sanders has an advantage. he leads 51% to her 46% among democrats, joining me to dissect poll numbers we're getting in. two guests poring over the numbers, director of the marist institute for public opinion and steve kornacki, live for us in new york. lee, what's the headline for you. >> kristen welker was exactly right. it's not just a woman problem for hillary clinton, it's the younger women who she is trailing among younger women by 29 points, trailing among younger men by 69 points. but only ahead among women of 45 years of age by nine points. there's -- if hillary clinton was banking on a gender gap, it falls apart when you start talking about women under 45. that's a real problem. they don't feel the urge to necessarily elect the first woman as president. hillary clinton doesn't have to be it. could be someone e

barack obama is not bernie sanders. and president obama had enormous overlap on what they wanted to do and how they wanted to do it. and there are big differences in their positions on the issues. and now we are free to talk about this. southba is in columbia, airliner today. there's no doubt he will play a big role in the closing days of the new hampshire primary. time in memorial questions, always with bill clinton, that big role -- >> nothing more clinton classic and andrea mitchell on a rope line. you don't need to be the biggest clintonologist to see what is going on there. he wants to frame this fight, he believes hillary clinton has a chance to do well enough here to not suffer a big defeat in new hampshire whether she closes the gap completely or not. if i were a clinton person watching that, i would be concerned he's headed in the direction which might be successful but might, as happened in 2008, backfire. >> they are lucky in this case that i have an opponent whose wife -- no clinton can trash bernie sanders

sanders? yes. clinton? sanders? clinton? sanders? hillary. hillary? you see a very converse crowd.here we are here in clark county. 11% identify at african-american. both side agrees it will be very tight. what they're doing here is lining up, going to go inside, register. then the caucusing will begin. >> what you're saying, jason, 20 minutes to get inside and then the doors close? is that what happened? >> reporter: 20 minutes to get into line. that's why some people here are confused because they think if they're not inside the doors by 12:00 they won't be able to participate. not the case. as long as you're in line by 12:00 you will be allowed to participate. all you need to do, get in line. a very long line. as long as you're in line, you're all right. >> thanks very much, jason. we'll get back to you. dana, what? four years, or eight years ago about 117,000, 118,000 it democrats participated in these democratic caucuses. looks like a big turnout right now. i wonder if that helps hillary clinton or bernie sanders? >> i think both camps. both camps believe the higher the turnou

sanders awarded 695. o'malley, who suspended his campaign tonight, was awarded 7.68 state delegate equivalents, so that's 8 sces, which means that his delegate equivalency would have or could have put sanders over the edge. it was greater than the difference. the other thing i'll point out is that the official turnout at this point in that release that the iowa democratic party just pushed out was 171,109 people turning out to participate in the democratic caucuses. quite a number. still not as high as obama levels in 2008, but still quite a number. >> danny, you look at that, and you've been out in the field here. you're thinking about this race. the iowa democratic party emphasizing this is obviously the closest result they've ever had. as you mentioned, martin o'malley, the former maryland governor considered by many a nonfactor, a nonentity in this race and he suspended his campaign tonight. yet it was so close that his handful of state delegate equivalents also formed the margin. what can you tell us

bernie's top question is, where will bernie sanders be speaking? why bernie sanders?ld be bernie sanders' vp? it's just interesting to kind of see where people's heads are at. do you get the sense on the democratic side people are really still making a decision? >> absolutely. i think hillary clinton had a very solid grounding in new hampshire early on. but i think new hampshire voters are so used to breaking late that they didn't really make a decision. they are still learning. i talked to somebody the other day who said, i really love bernie sanders, i love everything he stands for, but if i saw him in a room, i wouldn't know what he looks like. so i think it's really cool these people haven't made up their minds and it's only a few days away. >> it's tuesday, right? just four days to new hampshire's primary, and we're asking you to weigh in now. it's our question of the day. did the debate change your mind on who you will vote for? you can cast your vote on pulse.msnbc.com. >>> up next we'll have a live interview with the clinton campaign as the fight for new hamps

today the candidate, same table, same al sharpton, bernie sanders. and, yeah, hillary clinton has run a presidential race before. in some ways it's starting to feel like hillary clinton has won this presidential race before. the question now is whether she knows how to make it end differently than it did the last time. this is a very exciting time. quenches skin to keep it supple and hydrated day after day. formulated with hydrating hyaluronic acid which retains up to 1000 times its weight in water this refreshing water gel plumps skin cells with intense hydration and locks it in. for supple, hydrated skin that bounces back. hydro boost. from neutrogena "better ingredients. y better pizza." you better deliver. which is why i'm introducing our new papa's quality guarantee: love your pizza, or get another one, absolutely free. get any large pizza up to 5-toppings for just $9.99. online only. at papajohns.com >>> one of the biggest surprises today about what happened in new hampshire last night is that in the delegate count, it was apparently a tie betw

we have a bernie sanders supporter and the author of "the essential bernie sanders."cond. it's been getting tonally much more negative over the past 24, 48 hours. you see bernie sanders with no fear at all about striking out at secretary clinton. certainly, it has gotten -- he's been fighting back. he just said earlier today, look, wall street, she gets money from wall street. i don't. you just heard me talk about that with her press secretary. facts are facts. she gets money from wall street. he doesn't. h >> the facts are, as you point out, hillary clinton has had a huge amount of money from wall street. $600,000 from goldman sachs. she's gotten money from the pharmaceutical industry and the drug companies. the american people are concerned about the connection to corporation money. bernie sanders has been clear from the very beginning. if you and i had stood here in june and said bernie sanders would have tied in the iowa caucuses, be ready to have a substantial lead in new hampshire, have after iowa $3 million raised from contributions -- four out of those ten con

sanders' part. and to senator sanders' point, i don't think it was very progressive for him to side with the nra five different times voting against the brady bill. i don't think it was very progressive of him to vote to give immunity to gun manufacturers. i don't think it was very progressive of him to allow guns to be brought onto amtrak and in public parks. but we've seen a consistent record on his part of supporting the nra on issue after issue. i don't think that speaks to a very progressive record. >> so will she go on the attack tonight if this continues during the cnn town hall? >> so, wolf, i think that -- i actually don't think that this line of attack is going to be very successful for senator sanders. it doesn't ring true to voters in new hampshire or elsewhere who know hillary clinton's commitment to these progressive causes. i think it's just representative of the fact that increasingly the sanders campaign has come under scrutiny, are not standing up that well in the spotlight. they'r

on the flip side, the positive side for senator sanders, will his newfound senator sanders will his worldwidetting for his success so far in the democrat primary, will that even the gap in south carolina. could that potentially drive this political revolution that he talks about, including starting to actually increase voter turn out. could bernie sanders actually win south carolina. could he make the idea of a bernie sanders nomination a real prospect? nevada is caucuses. nevada has no polling heading into the caucuses. nevada is a bit of a black box in terms of what happened nemz. south carolina could hold a lot of answers. joining us now is the chairman of the south carolina democratic party. thanks so much for being on with us tonight. >> of course. it's great seeing you. >> so when i last saw you in south carolina you told me that you were pretty sure that bernie sanders was trying as hard as he could in south carolina but you felt like with how far behind he was starting with the african-american electorate in south carolina he didn't have much of a chance of closing the gap that black

and bernie sanders also has ties.hey may not be emotionally deep and strong as hillary clinton, but they are still very legitimate ties to the black community. this is a great fight. >> charles, just as we heard from congressman lewis, there was a writer michelle alexander who just wrote this piece, why hillary clinton doesn't deserve the black vote. she's saying that president clinton did more harm to black means ultimately than reagan did by signing a $30 billion crime bill which had huge repercussions for black populations. >> i like michelle. she's a friend of mine. michelle is right on this point that 94 crime bill was an absolute disaster for the black community and president clinton did sign it. but there are no clean hands on that 1994 crime bill. biden helped to write it. hillary clinton cated for it and bernie sanders voted for it. it goes further than the field now. if you ask your congressional black caucus members then, many of them voted for it as well. in fact, democrats snuck in a provision at the last

with sanders.s feeling great. spending time with his wife jane and their daughter, live in arizona. made a short trip to support sanders. weaver talked a big game saying, look, this is a win either way for bernie sanders. he said, "clinton lost a 50-40 and 30 point lead in the first contest. sanders and his aides are hearing reports of high turnout, which weaver described as very auspicious for them. the campaign, i'm told, actually sending out texting to its supporters reminding them to stay in line. if they were in line by noon, they are set and don't want anyone going home. so they're trying to make sure they do stay put. wolf? >> brianna, stand by. we'll get back to you. brianna is in las vegas. a dead heat for practical purposes, dana, based on early numbers? the entrance polls? >> very early. going into this we kind of got the sense from both camps that they really didn't know how this was going to happen, and it could be a dead heat. i want to ask you, david, something we've noticed over the

very narrowly defeating bernie sanders. bernie sanders comes in second place. an extremely close race. i want to bring in jeff, who is our correspondent. he is covering this. you see what the results there are. these are the results now by the iowa, by the iowa democrats. >> there hadn't been an official announcement in iowa. now there's an official announcement. the iowa democrats, swref, say hillary received 700.59 estate delegate ekwifl i wants. those are representatives that will go to the iowa democratic convention. bernie sanders 696.82 state delegate ekwifl ebt with where's. it's official now. hillary clinton camp can properly declare she won the iowa caucuses. >> she, in fact, did declare a victory. i'm here in in as away, new hampshire, and she just wrapped up a campaign rally just a few minutes ago, and she said i know what it's like to lose in iowa -- referring to eight years ago -- and i know what it's like to win, and winning feels better. bernie sanders is claiming a moral victory. he said his call for change is call for a revolution. a new -- it

to bernie sanders. investment paid off tonight. he also had almost 200 staffers on the ground there. so it's not that bernie sanders was not making an investment in south carolina. the question we'll find out tonight is if it's worth it and what that means going forward in these other southern primaries in the other primaries across the country here. but when you talk to his advisers, they will say, look, this is a delegate fight. he will do very well in convict tests in march here. but there's no question here, wolf, this is a turning point. democrats realize this is a turning point. the question for bernie sanders is, will he change his rhetoric at all? he was pretty aggressive on his rival today throughout his rallies in texas, across the board on issues. will he change his tone as this campaign goes forward into march? when some 56% of the delegates are picked in the month of march. wolf? >> super tuesday only a few days away. that's why he's heading to rochester, minnesota, where you are. we'll of

some sanders area. some high concentration of sanders supporters as well. it is tough to see looking at that either can a, oh, yeah, i'm confident of winning. confidently hearing the clinton campaign say they are winning the primary. when he lost, came out by eight points. early that night, a fateful decision, a tied rate. declared victory, called himself a comeback kid, might as well be a win. history remembers him the comeback kid and forgets paul tsongas one. >> the declaration can be everything. obviously, weigh this out, interesting, even psychological gambit by the clinton campaign to say they won. if you had to guess based on prevention experience and that list of precincts just described, when do you think we're going to have these numbers? >> we could be going into the wee hours here. you see it on the screen. remind everybody, these are not votes, delegate equivalents. that is as close to a tie without being a tie pretty much as you're going to get. when you're within five here, the fact you have any outstanding precincts at all makes it difficult

bernie sanders is at 44.'s not been a ton of polling in massachusetts thus far, but these new numbers are the first massachusetts polls to show hillary clinton leading in that state. if this poll is born out on tuesday, and secretary clinton wins in massachusetts, that would put the democratic presidential contest in a qualitatively different place than in this goes the other way. bernie sanders is counting on massachusetts. massachusetts has so many delegates, and demographically it's so designed for a bernie sanders win. neighbor's his home state just as new hampshire does where he did so well. if he doesn't win massachusetts, senator sanders path gets way, way narrower than anybody previously imagined. joining us now is anthony brooks. thanks for joining us. appreciate having you here. >> rachel, it's my pleasure. thank you for having me. >> there hasn't been a ton of polling in the democratic race in massachusetts or the republican race in massachusetts thus far. should we take it to mean that massachuset

bernie sanders? >> absolutely not. we says back in the spring we always knew this race would be close. i don't think everyone believed us back in the spring when we said that, but it's turning out to be the case. this will be a spirited contest. it's growing the party. this is -- what senator sanders is doing in terms of motivating young people to come into the democratic party is a very important thing. and -- but i do think that over the next six weeks, there will be a sorting out and by the end of march there will be a candidate that has a lead in terms of the pledge delegates that will be hard for the challenger to overcome. that candidate that will have that lead at the end of march will be hillary clinton. >> what is the biggest weakness in your opinion that bernie sanders has? >> the clear contrast in this race is who has actually gotten results on the progressive values that senator sanders and secretary clinton share. when it comes to affordable health care, hillary clinton was the one that

we'll give vermont to the sanders campaign. we give minnesota to bernie sanders for the hypothetical. let's just give them colorado for the sake of the hypothetical.sanders wins his top four targets, what she hopes to do is start to pull away. let's assume after super tuesday it looks roughly like this. remember, she has 445 super delegates. he still has just shy of 20. her math is better than this looks. this map gives you only pledge delegates. so she hopes to be well out here again to send a message to senator sanders. he's been saying release the transcripts of your paid speeches. his rhetoric has been tougher of late. >> as people have suggested even by staying in the race, he pushes her towards his positions, the most important issues he's been pushing and that's one of the reasons he might stay in a lot longer than the delegate count might suggest. >> when you hear the clinton campaign hoping senator sanders tones it down, does that seem, a, likely and, b, possible? >> our indication will be at the cnn debate on sunday.

sanders is preparing his speech.lose, he is going to declare victory and move forward with his call for a revolution. the same call he has been giving out on the campaign trail. he has to see this as a huge achievement here. they're planning a big fund-raising that will propel his campaign. they're looking at these precincts and neighborhoods in des moines. the o'malley factor which we talked about so much, is also coming into play in several of these precincts. we're keeping a close eye on thisp. >> 51% to 49%, with 31% of the votes still due in. hearts are pumping and palpitating all over iowa. dana, you just heard jeff report that sanders, no matter what, is going to declare victory. that's one of the things we see in these contests, there are the numbers and then there is the spin. >> if you were running sanders campaign, if i were or anybody, republican or democrat, just on the 350ur operations side of this, you would do the same thing, of course, he came from nowhere. this would be a pretty remarkable gain, eve

harry bellefonte endorsing sanders. i'm joined by this distinguished panel tonight in new york as we count you down. we're going to get into the details of tonight's debate in a moment. i want to begin with jeff zeleny. jeff, tonight truly is a very crucial night for both clinton and sanders. >> reporter: it certainly is. the outcome shook the confidence of donors and staff members and the candidate herself. this is a chance on this stage right behind me here to get back in the groove. we know one thing about hillary clinton. she does very well at debates. there's not a debate this cycle or the first time that she ran for president that she did not shine in. so what she's trying to do tonight is to get back to the issues, to focus on foreign policy, a strength for her, to highlight other strengths, her experience and record. the clinton campaign knows they have to improve their likeability. i think the sanders campaign has a burden to keep this in the driver's seat. bernie sanders has fallen into this moment a bit. he w

sanders is preparing for that. listen to what he said tonight in his victory speech. >> i have been criticized during this campaign for many, many things. every single day. that's okay. that's all right. they're throwing everything at me except the kitchen sink and i have the feeling that kitchen sink is coming pretty soon as well. >> now, john and christine, sanders' campaign tells us that they are preparing to expand nationally with new ads in colorado, massachusetts, minnesota and oklahoma as they start to compete in super tuesday states. sanders is really trying to turn his momentum here into a national movement. john and christine. >> eric bradner, thanks for that. even trying to raise some money and crashing the website. let's break down the winners and losers this morning. cnn politics digital reporter eric bradner, chris freight, patricia murphy and josh rogin. josh, i want to start with you. let's say on the democrats here. hillary clinton, she's got to do something. she's got to do something to rev up sup

bernie sanders / presidential candidate :20 - :23 "end a rigged economy, create an clinton said sanders knows he can't do that. s/ sec. hillary clinton / presidential candidate :32 - :39 "i'm fighting for people who cannot wait for those changes and i'm not making promises that i cannot keep." it got nasty fast... s/ sen. bernie sanders / presidential candidate :41 - :47 "i am very proud to be the only candidate up here who does not have a superpac." unlike clinton, sanders said: s/ sen. bernie sanders / presidential candidate :52 - 1:01 "being part of the establishment is, in the last quarter, having a superpac that raised 15 million dollars from wall street." 21:25:44 being par of establishment having a superpac that raised 15 mill from wall street in last quarter. 21 s/ sec. hillary clinton / presidential candidate 1:02 - 1:15 "if you've got something to say, say it directly, but you will not find that i ever changed a steve handelsman nbc news durham new hampshire and, clinton complained, only bernie sanders would say a woman running for president exemplifies the establishment steve

if bernie sanders were to somehow win in texas, if bernie sanders were to somehow win in georgia, andhese are not highly plausible, highly expected outcomes, but if he wins michigan, obviously massachusetts or vermont, that is obviously not enough. he has got to win some state that she is expected to win. mark: they are going to try to break his back by winning some states. massachusetts, they have a political consulting group that is based there, and they are going to try to work very hard to keep bernie sanders from winning there, they are not going to try to shut him out, what they are going to try to shut him down. if hillary clinton is called by the justice department about her e-mails, that could spook voters at least. in south carolina, she could go in and win in march in some unexpected places. john: the other way to win, of course, the other way to do it in some unexpected states would be to do it in these battleground states. bernie sanders could do it in ohio, michigan, florida, maybe, maybe you could say that it is a tough road for bernie sanders, no doubt about it. coming

bernie sanders: we have tried.e annoyed, as you know as well as everybody, how often i am asked, how vulnerable secretary clinton is. people say, bernie, why do not attacker on this? i have chosen not to do this. i have chosen to focus on the real issues. when i get attacked i secretary or someone in her campaign, that is very annoying. we will do our best. i will tell you what, i'm going to tell you what i believe. number two, i think people want you to be not just yelling and demagogy and attacking your opponent, but they want you to understand what they are going through. that is what we will stay focused on. mark: donald trump basically calling everyone a liar. do you feel as though secretary clinton or her campaign has lied about you in any way? distorted? bernie sanders: the answer is, yes. to compare our campaign to the republican campaign would be absurd. other areas in your campaign where you feel they have lied on? or misrepresent a question mark ted?ie sanders bernie sanders: yes, the idea that i want to

we know -- bernie sanders campaign. does it change anything for bernie sanders. . >> we are waiting for the answer. there's a thought he'll take it over. the reality is that we are a candidate 41 points behind, a new months ago, running against almost an incumbent. someone with almost 100% name i.d. here we are on election night, we are ahead in the number of delegates we have won at this point. it's exciting to be here, we feel it's a huge victory, no matter what happens here on out. >> what do you think about the ivory tower, whether it's trump, cruz or bernie sanders supporters. it's a political establishment. is that a view you share, a repudiation of the political establishment. >> what we are trying to do here is change the establishment. we are trying to make sure that we take it over so we have it for the people, run by the people. that's what we want to do. we want to change out the establishment, making it so we have an establishment working for all working americans, instead of just working class. >> charles,

if you came into this debate a bernie sanders fan, you left a bernie sanders fan. vice versa for the clinton camp. it shows the deep lines will continue as the race spreads all across the country. >> jeff, thank you for setting the table for us. political anchor for time warner cable news and the senior editor for the daily beast, errol louis. was what your take away? >> clinton was outpointing senator sanders in subtle ways. she had the mother of a dontre hamilton. he was shot 14 times. mental illness may have been involved. it was a real important issue. she drops the name. senator sanders doesn't do that. she is making direct appeals to black voters in south carolina. hillary clinton was showing her experience you have to be thinking about who is watching. not everybody watching is important or i should say some are more important than others. she was trying to do political business. >> you would put people who live in the states of nevada and south carolina of people more important than others. jeff, at the end there he said maybe bernie sanders didn't put up a