bernie sanders is pro-choice. but i think he's looking at 50 states and saying if we're really going to have a 50-state strategy, you have to allow people to be in a different place culturally on some of these issues as long as you're putting economics front and center. frankly, what we've done recently in the party is we've enforced purity on the cultural issues and allows anything goes on economics, right? you can be in the pocket of wall street, the pocket of silicon valley, that's all fine and good. and i think bernie sanders is trying to reverse that and it happens to be a course i agree with if we want to take back power in some of these states and if we want to get back in control in the house of representatives. >> and howard, as a former dnc chairman, would you accept that deal? that essentially all of the cultural issues that have driven the democratic party, that have made it a multiracial party, a party of lgbt rights, all that put to the side and bernie sanders to his own quote adopt 100% of his theme

like bernie sanders to run.oles show, including i think even one fox one, the incredible popularity of bernie sanders in won the could have actual presidential race if you were running against donald. so why not push for him to be within the democratic party? >> there is no doubt that donald trump devastated the republican establishment for a few weeks. as soon as he moved to the white house, he brought it back. you brought back wall street, brought back the billionaires, military-industrial complex. what has happened, consolidation of a far, far right wing -- let's be honest, donald trump is a gangster in character. he is a neil fascist in the making. he is very dangerous. we do support a multiracial coalition against donald trump, but at the same time, the democratic party refuses to engage in self-examination, in soul-searching, was to do the same thing over and over again and keep the personnel and leadership. therefore, the last thing we need is another neoliberal technocratic centrist running for the democ

bernie sanders was asked if john osoff -- especially because the next day, bernie sanders and keith ellisonir of the dnc, were going to omaha, a mixed record on abortion, prompted a whole backlash from pro choice groups. so a bit of a speed bump in this unity tour. but then bernie sanders put out that statement, clarifying that he is supporting jon oshoff, and coincidentally, didn't look great, tom perez happened to be campaigning at the same time all of this was going down. >> so what is the point of this tour? it is very strange. i have to say. just from the outside looking in, you have somebody who says sitting next to the chairman of the dnc, he's not a democrat. he has no interest in being a democrat. but yet he's on tour with the democrats. what -- have you been able to divine what it is that bernie sanders wants out of this? >> yeah. i've been thinking about it as tom perez's wild ride on bernie sanders coattails. bernie sanders is the most popular politician in the country, according to some polls. he won a huge portion of the democratic primary electorate, and tom perez recognizes

so bernie sanders -- i know bernie sanders supporters, if you can believe that. so many of them that i know are friends of mine are so angry and feel like the election was stolen from bernie sanders and if the dnc had done their job, they didn't want tom perez. they think there's this big conspiracy within the establishment dnc to take away the socialist agenda from the rightful ownership of this base of core supporters. so where the democrats go at this point? it looks like socialism. it looks like this hardcore base may be where they pull them too. any chance of making up the difference between these uber drivers you two were talking to -- i never talk to my uber drivers -- i never talk to them. >> easternpean. >> looks like they won't maybe up the gap. whether you like it or not, i don't believe that bernie sanders could have beaten donald trump. he's message is too radical. america is not a socialist country and it's not going to turn to one. >> the energy and the passion of the democratic party has been for a while with elizabeth warrens and the bernie sande

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people like bernie sanders and keith ellison. they are trying to expand social security, medicare for all. i think we witnessed at the last march there was a resistance recess. up to ask showing their congressperson not just about protecting obamacare not just about building on obamacare which i think is a necessity. there is medicare for all, building health care in this country as a right but also as a privilege. i do think from resistance to reconstruction that is part of the mantra i wake up with. >> did you see any of that with the candidates in a district even though republicans won in the margins? >> absolutely. is a ruby red district, i think the margins show that there is a resilience, momentum and energy. that thetanding is democrats need to take back 24 house seats in 2018, of 23 of those they are districts hillary clinton won that are occupied by republicans. there is momentum, there is a re-engagement, people are not willing to let others do their best. as we are stepping up have seen. be -- it is out of crisis there

bernie sanders is the real draw here. i've also heard a lot of people say that they think bernie sanders supporters need to give tom perez a chance and need to get involved and be involved themselves that said, democratic party has stuck with bernie sanders whether they like him or not. he's one of the most popular politicians in the country. he won a huge portion of the democratic primary. they are going to have to work together one way or the other. >> and bernie sanders is still registered as an inpeent. >> reporter: exactly. he reiterated that this week which csed concern as did his decision to say that jon ossoff is a progressive and campaigned for a mayoral candidate in omaha. even some bernie sanders supporters said they would like to see him as a democrat. and tom perez democrats and we'll see if they can pull it off. >> that's a good point. alex seitz-wald, thank you. we'll be watching. >>> will the president's health care plan be met with open arms on both sides of the aisle? >>> and the nation's health care sys

katie: i think bernie sanders would disagree.ind it interesting that liberals are always accusing conservatives of focusing on social issues that don't belong in the government realm and here we are with bernie sanders back someone who dairs to fall off the thinking and the plantation of how you should think on the left about abortion with no restrictions at all. and he's getting heat for it. but they need to realize bernie sanders is one of the most popular politicians in the country, and he's the one leading the democratic party, not tom perez or nancy pelosi. kennedy: or howard dean. he said hate speech is not protected by the first amendment. even bill maher had to come out and say what are you talking about? it was bernie sanders house like i may not agree with ann coulter but let her speak. and bernie is supporting a candidate for mayor who is a state senator voted for abortion restriction in his home state. katie: it comes down to money it come down to the abortion lobby spent by groups like planned parenthood which gets $

this week we saw senator sanders on the campaign trail. if you look at oseff and tom price, there's this battle of about the future of the democratic party. who is the beating part of the democratic party? >> it is the central question of all of politics. democrats are trying to figure it out because the answer is not what some would like. bernie sanders is still the driving force at the head of the party. he is still a sneart. hillary clinton is no longer the leader of this party. bernie sanders is trying to be. it makes so many democrats nervous. they've been watching what the republicans were doing and they do not want the reverse to happen lurching to far to the left as republicans did with the tea party. finally by the third or fourth day, you know, he was reluctant to get oseff. the reality is as the week went on he supported a candidate from my home state of nebraska. they are going across the country to get some democrats fired up. bernie sanders is going to give the party a lot of trouble in the next couple of years. he's occupyin

are you and senator sanders registering democratic voters. isn't the point to create democrats or is the the point corral independents? >> sure. what we have to do is lead with our values. i don't think it's necessarily the best strategy right now, joy, to walk into a room with a clipboard in hand and say, hi, i'm tom perez, and before i can talk to you, sign up to be a democrat. i think what we have found to be very effective, when we're out there, whether it was leading the opposition to the affordable care act, the muslim ban. i was in a number of airports across the country, there are so many issues, climate change. there's so many issues where our values and positions totally aligned. and i think that is a much more effective strategy because we're working together with folks in legacy organizations, in organizations that have only been around a year or less. when we work together and talk about what we're doing and coordinate activities, when folks see the democratic party is moving ball down the field, that's the best way to make sure

the nation endorsed bernie sanders in the primaries. someone who was covered for 30 years as a state rep, a congressman, someone we think his issues are the issues we have championed. norman thomas, who ran six times the socialist party president, was asked at the end of his life what he was of.dest of -- proudest driving his ideas into the democratic party is what he said. sanders fought hard at the end of the primary not to win, but to get his ideas into the platform, which is not just a piece of paper, it's informing our politics. i don't think donald trump -- look, on the populism question, it's a complicated one. there are many strands of populism. we do see right-wing populism ascending around the world for many reasons. a failure to speak to people who are angry who feel that their voices aren't heard, who feel left behind in a time of tectonic shifts. but donald trump is quickly being captured by goldman sachs, the bankers, the bombardier's and generals. i think that who he is is still up for grabs. he ran as a populist, but i,

either bernie sanders or joe biden. guest: what i hear from democrats on the coast and big cities, a lot of protests, a lot of anger. what i do not see a lot of introspection. donald trump ran on all of these things. 63 mine people almost voted for him. he won the election fair and square. host: as many people voted for barack obama as hillary clinton and that shows you where the map change. guest: there were more that did not vote for either in 2016 as opposed to 2012. a far lower turnout. democratsu look at standing in the interior of the country, what was fascinating for me when i analyze county by county the election votes was there was only one county out of 3000 in the country that voted for obama by 20 points in 2012 andvoted for donald trump 2016. it was howard county, iowa, along the border with i made some calls and it was interesting to talk to the democratic chair and republican there. and what i heard was there is one major employee in the town to that has been there for years. the donelson county which man

we talked to people who felt like the sanders -- there was a resentment in clinton land that sanders hadn't conceded earlier, that he had dragged this on, that he had kind of damaged her narrative in that he had said she is working in cahoots with big banks. that's another one that they say hurt her in november. host: you go on to write, inside the washington bubble, bernie had long been looked at as a revolutionary without much of a following and yet as perhaps the most reliable liberal voice in congress, he had built a following among progressives who caught campaign clips of him on c-span -- thank you for the plug, by the way. we had to plug that. you also say, the uncompromising style was precisely the reason he was poised to take advantage of a popular renaissance in the electorate. guest: yeah, it's really amazing. i won't ask you to comment on this. i don't think anybody would have -- host: he said the same thing he was saying in 2016. guest: the consistency is unbelievable. nobody in washington listened to bernie sanders for the first 25 years. when he announced his candidacy

kicked off a unity tour, starring senator bernie sanders and new dnc chair, tom perez. and here's how that went on day one. >> maybe it's because you love a certain senator from vermont. >> bnie, bernie, bernie! >> you guys, i still have two minutes left, all right? come on. all right? so maybe you came, though, because you're curious about the new dnc chairman and the future of the democratic -- >> so the come together and fight back tour wraps up today in las vegas. but about that come together part. bernie sanders may not quite want to be together. >> you're on this road trip now with the head of the dnc. reforming, reviving, transforming the democratic party. do you consider yourself a democrat? >> no, i'm an independent. >> msnbc political reporter, alex seitz-wald, has been following the tour. joins me now. so alex, you had a much

he came out to hear bernie sanders.people from bernie sanders' side, hillary clinton's side who want to unify the party and come together. i spoke to a woman who was a republican who came into the party because of bernie sanders. she became a democrat and has gotten involved locally in democrats and she thinks that bernie sanders' supporters need to come into the fold and not just wait for the party to come to them but to move to the party. it's a big tent. they lost. there's hard feelings. lots of blame and finger pointing to go around. it will be a long process but nothing unites them quite like donald trump. >> that is for sure. alex seitz-wald, very good point made. >>> a major political milestone in france is being overshadowed and possibly changed by the latest act of terror in paris. watch this. [ gunfire ] >> just terrifying video showing the chaos of thursday's killing of a police officer along champs elysees. france heads to the polls tomorrow to choose a new president. candidate marine le pen drawing internat

what does this say about the bernie sanders supporters in the room? is there still a schism within the donkey party? >> absolutely. all of us have been talking about this civil war in the gop, but no one wanted to talk about the massive division in the dnc. i'm friends with a lot of bernie sanders supporters. they are not over it. the populist socialist wing of the party wants nothing do with the establishment wing. now the dnc is paying for the way they treated bernie sanders it was unfair. kennedy: bernie sanders is going to iowa and getting injections. >> after jerry garcia died they have the further festival. but we do have to hold him accountable to what kristen said. we are suppose to be the divide party. event was called "come together." and they booed the chairman. if we threw and intervention for andy and showed up drunk. >> they sort of have two different bases right now. it's the bernie breeze for lack of a better term. and the hillary bots. i said on the show before i'll take the bernie breeze over the hillary bots any day of the week. i a

these rallies seem like bernie sanders rallies. perez was not the guy that bernie sanders wanted to be the dnc chairman. that was keith ellison. and let them vent a little bit and build that process. there's been a couple bumps in the road and it's going to be a long process before they get to a completely unified democratic party. >> alex, i know it's loud there. but is tom perez, as you've mentioned, he's a bit of an unknown. is he picking up the bernie sanders' shine? >> reporter: yes, he is. people were skeptical at first but then they hear him talk and say a lot of the same issues that bernie sanders is talking about, hearing this strong rhetoric. he's been dropping swear words in his speeches this week. they give him a benefit of the doubt. remember, the context here is that they blame the dnc essentially for rigging the primary process last year against bernie sanders. there's a lot of mistrust coming in here and perez is trying to rebuild that the same time he's trying to rebuild the democratic party as a whole after losses

what sander said is when hillary clinton was forced to speak bernie sanders names and the cameras show up at his rallies and the news is reporting on what he is saying, what we realize or what people realize is here is someone saying things i believed for 20 years, the influence of corporations. the answer that bernie sanders is on that message, the guy who was energizing so many young people. to me it says that the fundmental nature of the system is that politician, the only way anything will fundamentally change in this country is if we get the corporations out of our political system. that is not an easy battle. i think that had barack obama opted into public financing in 2008 and feingold it would have been a shake up of the system. the bernie sanders moment, i think really showed how many people in this country understand the role corporations are playing in dismantling our democratic process. it's not the most sexy answer in the world, but if you are thinking about it from organized politics, it's not too late. talk about climate change, we are almost at the point of no return. d

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what does bernie sanders want?t's really -- i mean, it's very interesting, but i think it's what he's been saying for years and years and years. i mean, he's laid out pretty clear policies. he wants the democratic party to really turn into what he's been wanting which is universal health care, single payer system which is this idea of free college for all. i think his policies are really what he wants. as someone who went to hundreds of rallies with him, has interviewed him several times, i think he literally lays out what he's wanted for almost 30 years. and i think the fact that he's now getting people to listen to his speech that he's given since the '80s is flabbergasting him. but i think that's what he wants. he wants the democratic party to change completely and not be at all a centrist party. >> what do the donors want? you brought up the donors earlier. what the donors want is antagonism towards trump. do they want bernie progressivism or what? >> the thing about democratic donors, you can get the coke brot

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i think senator sanders is up next. others have spent a lot of time vilifying the oil and gas actors, looters. 364,000 oklahomans work in the oil and gas industry or a related service sector. are these people bad actors? questionerlluters could you describe -- you talk about the good people in your written statement. you are the good people and are you representing them when you bring these kinds of actions? are they evil people? no, they care about the law. they want to make sure that the epa is partnering with state agencies and industry. sen. sullivan: are these hundreds of thousands of people part of that industry? mr. pruitt: absolutely. this is a state concern. in more than that, we have significant regulation of this industry. so, we have regulatory bodies from deq to the corporation commission to others involved in making sure the air we breathe and the water we drink is clear. sanders: my office has received a great deal of comments in the state of vermont, as well as from all press country and the fear is the

senator sanders: in some manner? mr. pruitt: yes, sir. senator sanders: 90% of the scientists who wrote article in peer-reviewed journals is that this is the fundamental reason we are seeing climate change. you disagree with that? mr. pruitt: i think to measure the degree of human's on chimet -- there is a debate whether human activity contributes to it. senator sanders: while you are not certain, the vast majority of scientists are telling us that if we do not get our act together and transform our energy system away from fossil fuel, there is a real question as to the quality of the planet that we are going to be leaving our children and our grandchildren. >> just some of c-span's special program looking at the trump cabinet with portions from congress fir mation hearings featuring -- confirmation hearings featuring education secretary betsy devos and e.p.a. director scott pruitt and others. we'll have that for you at 8:00 p.m. here on c-span. >> this week on "q&a," historian david mccola on "the american spirit: who we are and what we

support berniet sanders. i supported hillary clinton, but bernie sanders has a lot to offer.he democrats aren't disarray. -- our in disarray. this was not a republican victory, this was a trump victory, where he did the clintons and bushes. people are tired of all the politicians, democrats, republicans. they want us to work together and solve some problems. i think the democratic party has a lot of work to do to be more unified, get a message in touch with the people. the people want us to address the problems they face in their everyday lives. they want us to create jobs for people and make enough money so they can afford educate their children, have a home, have health insurance and retire one day. that is what they want the democrats to work on, not identity politics. they want to look out for everyone in this country. host: one more call from the empire state. nicholas waiting outside of syracuse. for democrats. -- mine for democrats. caller: hi representative. guest: suozzi. caller: close enough. deal is the parties are so broke up and everybody is still in the same sta

senator sanders: in some manner? scientists who wrote articles in peer-reviewed journals believe human activity is the fundamental reason. do you disagree? >> i believe the ability to measure with humanion the degree of activity contributing is subject to debate. senator sanders: the vast majority of scientists are telling us that we do not get our act together and transform our energy system away from fossil fuels, there is a question as to the quality of the planet we are going to be leaving our children and grand children. >> just some of tonight's special program in the trumpcare that. we will show portions of hearings for the t devos, epa administrator scott pruitt and others. vice president mike pence is on a 10 day tour of asia. he announced president trump will attend three summits. two in the philippines and one in vietnam.

bernie sanders, great candidate. local and state officials who are democrats are wonderful, have not been corrupted, and got into politics for all the right reasons. i know someone in maine who runs a cash register and the whole community knows her so why do not want you to be overly cynical. when you talk about national democrats, they have been systemically corrupted by the money, not because they are bad people but because the races cost millions to hundreds of millions of dollars so they think, i need the bankers, the drug companies, the oil companies. i have covered it for over 20 years. and thenthat routinely vote in favor of the giant multinational corporations, because that is where their money comes from. host: tracy in minneapolis, a republican caller. caller: i used to watch you early on in 2007, 2008 on youtube and i really liked you back then. you supported a little bit of ron paul stuff and then i think you leaned toward obama and self are that. is, would we be in better shape as far as civil rights if

people who love bernie sanders, not people who love hillary clinton. they are going for the audience that screams the loudest. while that might be a smaller group, they are playing to that base and failing to take over the party. look at ossoff. they are playing to that base and ratings reflect that maybe it's not wisest choice in the world. but you are right, trump gives the and they give back it's like that couple want to break up. kennedy: trump claims it's fake news. we are doing an amazing job, and the press is saying he's the worst president ever, he needs to be impeached. >> the problem with all of the press, just campaigns for democrats all the time. it bothers me to think, here is the objectivity. it's like they are work for the democrat campaign. kennedy: it's like john harwood. >> when there is a survey of donations from people who work for media companies, it's more than 89%, 95% tilted towards democrat. that's the basic water in which journalism is swimming in. kennedy: the panel returns a little bit later. vice president pence says the u.

sanders. >> good morning, everybody. >> good morning. >> my name is sanders, my number is do 9582. time since the early '80s. every morning you wake up, get up at 5:30, you go eat chow, you go to your job assignment, whatever. it's no fun. you know what i mean? >> how many people in here have family in prison? >> yeah, family or friends. >> i have. >> how many have brothers and sisters and family and cousins that say it's cool up in there? oh, they say it's cool up in there, huh? come join us. i feel sorry for you if you do join them. >> right now, you're in junior high. you have so many doors open for you right now, but you can voluntarily give up your freedom. some of you, at the age of 14, can end up in prison already. so that's what we're here to talk about. the program, this is what we do. we bring the prison to you guys. we don't want to see you in prison. we'd rather see you out here. sanders is here to enlighten you, let you know about the choices. don't make these certain choices that he made. >> my dad has been in and out of prison since i was, like, born. and my mom, she

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bernie sanders absolutely would have won the nomination, if they did not get involved. and rigged it for hillary clinton. and so, you know that party is this broken and disunited should come as no surprise, anyone that thinks party hit rock bottom, i don't think they are considering how much worse it can get before it gets better. lou: things appear to be getting better. at least in terms of attracting money to 6th district of georgia, over 8 million dollars come to john ossoff. we're told, is we know he is polling first. there he is. he can't vote for himself, because he does not live in the 6th disif district, how do you sell that? >> that is right, democrats are trying to make this a referendum on their reis a stance to president trump -- resistance to president trump and his very successful agenda, that is why you see well is so much money pouring into this little district in georgia, where they are trying to get a win. and when you think about perez, whether bernie sanders declined to endorse perez for the dnc chair, you can see why perez is trying anything to poss

by the sanders people. i mean, it doesn't get worse than this. can't the democrats figure this out? >> there is a faction within the party that's very much into purity. i tell those people fight as hard as you want durin but when it comes to the general election, we have to hang together or we'll hang separately. that's why i think there will be more unity going forward. but some things have to get worked out within the party. judge jeanine: david? >> i think this is about bernie sanders trying to get the million miler status and using the democratic party to fly him around the country. the guy setting the agenda for the democratic party and whose policy ideas are leading the democratic party. he gets asked, are you a democrat? nah, i'm an independent. there is a media report today about how how democrats are elated that president trump is coming off of vacation because they don't have anybody to fire them up and they are looking for a leader. the guy who lost them over 1,000 elections. >> this time four ye

there is zero indication that bernie sanders said they want to cut medicaid and medicare., there are republican budgets that have been put on the table in the past, but to be fair to the president he has said no. we'll see what happens when we get to that process. it's unfair to say the president wants to do that right now. >> i mean, bernie sanders in some ways sounds like a broken record. this is what he was campaigning on. this is what democrats -- you've heard from them all along. >> he thinks he would have one if the quote/unquote establishment. >> they don't have any sort of unifying message. you can tell in what he's saying. talking about the epa and climate change. i mean, the democrats have always thought that diversity was their strength. in many ways it's not. there are too many sort of competing factions competing demographics in many ways and you have republicans who have a very solid message in many ways. they have the presidency obviously and these voters are committed to donald trump. there are emotionally attached to his message. i think again from that tw

sanders. >> good morning, everybody. >> good morning. >> my name is sanders, my number is do 9582.e been doing time since the early '80s. every morning you wake up, get up at 5:30, you go eat chow, you go to your job assignment, whatever. it's no fun. you know what i mean? >> how many people in here have family in prison? >> yeah, family or friends. >> i have. >> how many have brothers and sisters and family and cousins that say it's cool up in there? oh, they say it's cool up in there, huh? come join us. i feel sorry for you if you do join them. >> right now, you're in junior high. you have so many doors open for you right now, but you can voluntarily give up your freedom. some of you, at the age of 14, can end up in prison already. so that's what we're here to talk about. the program, this is what we do. we bring the prison to you guys. we don't want to see you in prison. we'd rather see you out here. sanders is here to enlighten you, let you know about the choices. don't make these certain choices that he made. >> my dad has been in and out of prison since i was, like, born. and

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and you just had bernie sanders on.rats, more independents, more republicans that just walk up to me on the street and say, you know, you were the adult, you were the positive one, the message of this book, i'm begging people to look at this book and to understand their responsibility and their ability to bring this country together and stop waiting for these politicians to get it right. they're not going to get it right until they get a message from us. >> dickerson: so what is this message? let's leave aside donald trump, you're a strong critic, you still russia but let's leave that aside for just a moment. what is that other message? what do people have to do? what can they do? >> john, i think a lot of it is to focus on common humanity. the editor of his book said he and his uncle were fighting at every holiday. i said, well why don't we focus on the things that pull us together? are we concerned about drug adirection? of course. it's not republican or democrats. are we worried about veterans that can't get a job? o