[applause] senator sanders: now, my republican friends and some others -- [laughter] senator sanders: seem to think that the american people hate paying taxes but they just loving paying insurance premiums. oh, my god. the insurance premium is here. what a wonderful day. oh, wow! [cheers and applause] senator sanders: let's celebrate! hey, another $2,000 a month for insurance and small businesses, they love it, paying every month those insurance premiums. the truth of the matter is study after study has shown as a nation we will save substantial sums of money and the average middle-class money will save an estimated $3,000 each and every year on their health care bills. [cheers and applause] senator sanders: further, and very importantly, because there is a lot of misinformation getting out there on this as well, that unlike the current dysfunctional system, medicare for all allows people the freedom to choose any doctor, ny clinic, or any hospital without worrying about whether their provider is in network or not. [applause] senator sanders: how many americans right now have a doctor

center stage tonight bernie sanders and elizabeth warren, but the candidate sanders is taking on todayt even on the stage tonight. standards slamming kamala harris medicare for all saying it isn't that at all. here is how harris explains it. >> the existing plans that have been offered did not express what i wanted. people wanted to know that there would be a longer prtransition period. the four years wasn't enough. i've talked to too many families and the idea that folks under $29,000 or above $29,000 a year would have to pay a tax is untenable. and then the third piece is as it relates to private insurance. people don't want government or anyone to take away their choices. >> here with me how is the campaign manager for bernie sanders' campaign. nice to see you in the flesh. it is debate day. how are you feeling? >> positive, we're always positive. >> good canned answer. what is the senator going to prepare? does he prepare or is it a rest day? >> no, we talk about the issues that he wants to raise and we know it's a lot of theatre, so you have to prepare for a little bit of the thea

warren and sanders will push back. they will say we have to change this entire system and they have powerful grass roots who believe that. >> i do think that part of the story line will be the moderates pushing back on the last debates. it was a big liberal party and there were broken bottles from cans all around. >> the wallet was empty. >> exactly. one of the interesting things about warren and sanders and i tend to agree they're not going to look for confrontations with each other and she has tried to differentiate herself from bernie sanders. she said he's a socialist. i believe in markets. in her own way she's made a bit of a tilt to the center even as her policies are quite progressive. that will be an interesting thing to watch as well. >> also governor, the first time he's in a debate. >> that's right. look for him to make that electability argument. he's been able to win in trump country. he's the governor of montana. this is his first chance to make a first impression. it might be his last chance to make a fi

we are awaiting senator bernie sanders.e building, so it's just a matter of time here as he comes onto the stage to do his walk-through. all of the candidates are doing this, taking the moment behind the podium that they will be standing behind this evening, so that they can get acclimated physically to the space that they will be in. all right. here we have senator -- is this senator sanders? no, that's jeff weaver, that's his former campaign chairman. now you see senator sanders who is there onstage inside the debate hall in detroit as he is getting ready and gearing up for tonight. i want to bring in wolf blitzer, he is there in detroit. this is -- we just saw senator elizabeth warren, wolf, and now we're seeing senator bernie sanders. and i think this is the pair that most observers are looking at tonight, because they operate somewhat in the same lane ideologically and yet they really have a friendship, right? >> they do have a good friendship, brianna. they have been friends all these years in the senate. they agree o

sanders and all of the big matchups is a democratic strategist and former strategist for the bernie sanders016 campaign. you don't see that playing out on tuesday. you actually think they might team up? >> yeah. i think that you have two dynamics in the first night of the debates. you have a generational debate. warren and bernie are the two oldest on the stage. buttigieg and o'rourke there and they are looking to drive that degeneration line. i think that you will see the moderate candidates, delaney or someone that will try to take on either warren or bernie. i think you can see the two of them coming to each others defense. the dynamic everybody wants on that night is sanders vs. warren. i think it will be sanders and warren versus the rest of the field. >> i think it is necessary. maybe there is an argument to be made it is not necessary this early. it is going to have to come, you know, to a head. i remember during the 2016 campaign you said that the progressive wing of the democratic party was dying for a champion. does it help bernie if they have two in bernie and warren? >> well, i

people forget about the contrast between her and bernie sanders but also credit to bernie sanders whoa lot of energy, he was able to have a couple moments during the debate saying i wrote the damn bill, that went over pretty well. he was stronger, more aggressive than he was the first time in the third person was governor luck. it was important to have a moderator talking about policies implemented in his home state with governing. a lot of people can't speak to that life experience and he was tough. he swung all the way through, challenge sanders in a lot of ways and it is important to have a moderate beside joe biden in his campaign. heather: i don't know if people would go with. he didn't have a lot of name recognition. what about your losers? who did not do the best last night? >> tim ryan obviously did not do best when contributing to i wrote the damn bill line so that hurt him a little bit. i don't think this races for delaney, he helps senator warren say she doesn't know why you are in the race if you are not willing to take on big issues and beta. the reason i say beto is he's

watch bernie sanders try to push back on jake tapper in this sound bite. >> senator sanders said thate in the middle class will pay more in taxes to pay for medicare for also that will be offset by the elimination of insurance premium and other costs. >> millions of insurance who have insurance can't go to the doctor and when they come out of the hospital they go bankrupt. what i'm talking about, if no deductible and no co-payment. jason, you are question is a republican talking point. liz: he's again not answering the question. he'll have to raise middle class taxes. his plan is a utopian plan that doesn't exist anywhere in the world. canada doesn't have it and china doesn't have it. >> we need to hold him accountable. it doesn't exist because it would be ridiculously costly to do so. we saw a figure from the heritage foundation that suggests we be paying taxes to pay for these giveaways. for those who cannot, that wraps we have a social safety net system. but he and elizabeth warren want to blow up our entire private industry and marketplace and replace it with a government. it won'

jillian: a lot are against sanders and warren. >> bernie sanders's senior advisor, thanks for comingwith us today. give us your big winners and losers from last night. >> there was a lot of attention on bernie sanders. not only did he rise to them. we were talking about that. he was front and center. i'm a little biased, i work for bernie but i was in the room and that was the biggest line of the night. other folks had a good night as well. senator warren had a good night, they were a good tandem on stage. more moderate, more centrist people and i don't think mayor pete had a bad night. >> some people have the same mentality as you do will agree with you that bernie sanders and elizabeth foreign had a good night and i don't think anyone is arguing they didn't but some may argue you had all these other candidates basically going against them on a number of topics especially healthcare and for a lot of america, and they may not want to be that far left. >> this is an election, bringing up a great point but polls would indicate the vision bernie sanders layout people really do like at a

elizabeth warren and bernie sanders the highest polling progressives. they will be right at the center of it all. >> i'm chris cuomo. and the whole team for the special edit of "the lead." jake tapper prepared to moderate alongside dana bash and d. lemon. wolf, so many candidates on stage. pressure has to be on, because let's be honest, if you don't break through tonight and get into the main dialogue, you may not get another chance. so as we've seen in past debates, you want to make a name or a move, often it is going to be an attack. what will that be? we'll know in just a couple of hours. so right now let's start to get into our coverage of what is going on. the clock is ticking. let's get right to cnn's jeff zeleny inside of the debate hall. so, jeff, for the leaders and laggards alike, tonight very big. >> reporter: chris, no question about it. this is a -- the last debate for some of the candidates. we don't know which candidates those will be. but all eyes will be on the center of the stage as you said where bernie sanders and elizabeth warren ar

bernie sanders was second with 17 minutes, 31 seconds. then there's a big drop-off to third place with pete buttigieg, 14 minutes, nine seconds. >> senator warren may have scored the most face time, but it was marianne williamson who's breakout moments made her the most searched of the ten candidates during the debate in 49 of 50 states. she was also the candidate trending most heavily nationwide on twitter. according to trends 24, as of midnight, williamson, the only one to beat the "bachelorette" finale followed by delaney, sanders, warren, and ryan. "bachelorette" finale -- >> says so much about america. ten more democrats take the stage tonight including joe biden and kamala harris. the second night of the cnn democratic debates all starts at 8:00 p.m. tonight live again from detroit only on cnn. set was beautiful -- >> it was gorgeous. >> fox theater was lovely. did a great job. >> look forward to more tonight. >>> as the canadian were getting ready to debate, north korea launched two more missiles. we have a live report next. i can'

she doesn't have to have a fight with bernie sanders. sanders is coming down. he had high expectations when he got into the race. will they be fending off the moderates all night or will they have a moment? >> it sounds like they'll spend a lot of time talking about a progressive vision for america. you heard senator warren say she's not going to go on the attack. they're going to focus on what they have in common, the green new deal, medicare for all, big, bold progressive ideas even as they fend off challenges from some of the moderates on the stage who say those ideas are unworkable or too far to the left or are going to drive away independent voters. so it does sound like from senator warren's position that she's not looking to get into a big fight on the stage with bernie sanders. she may think it's too early to have that fight but they're going to have a lot of challenges from the left and right on the stage, people who are on the flanks who are more moderate and looking to make a name for themselves trying to get to the center stage. >> as we continue th

bernie sanders is saying the american people deserve as much.: out-of-pocket spending here is much longer than anywhere else in the world, but when you look at single-payer systems, they do have out-of-pocket cost. how can the u.s. government afford all of this? briahna: what is interesting is a republican study actually showed bernie sanders medicare for all plan results in a $2 trillion savings over the system we currently have. kamalaut forward by harris today, unfortunately, failing in large part, because they don't get to the cost savings. they go out of their way to preserve the private insurance industry and medicare advantage. $30care advantage has shown million worth of waste over the past few years. when we are saying is we are going to save the american people more by getting away from some of these plans that are basically giveaways to the private insurance industry. this -- kevin: i was struck by this, senator sanders was asked, will taxes go up or the middle class? up or the middle class? he was very transparent and said they are g

for somebody to win, one of them -- >> sanders and warren. >> sanders versus warren.are holding the progressive -- if you can't see that very well, i can do it in the bluer color. they are holding 30% of the vote nationally. if you look at the state of new hampshire, they're the leading candidates are long with joe biden. this is -- they agree on most of the issues, but they're taking up a lot of space. at some point for this race to move, that has to happen. >> the other big matchup would be either they circle or they go to war. elizabeth warren, kamala harris. everybody assumes you have the two progressives fighting each other and the two moderates fighting each other at the top. but some polls show that you have a lot of people who are warren and then harris is second choice. or harris and warren is second choice. so there's a fight for the heart and the love of the female vote. one thing about this thing that's very interesting, you have a lot of racial diversity on wednesday night. >> yeah. >> and you also -- you separated the texans, but you put the new yorkers

is that your way of convincing voters but you might be a safer choice than senator sanders senator sanders? >> no, it is my way of talking about -- i know how to fight, and i know how to win. >> so, the issue of electability, of course one of the most important issues to democrats heading into 2020. which candidate can beat to president trump? all of the candidates gave their own answers tonight, but mayor pete buttigieg gave an answer that really stood out. listen here. >> nominate me, and you get to see the president of the united states stand next to an american war veteran and explain why he chose to pretend to be disabled when it was his chance to serve. >> one candidate who really needed a moment tonight one of the former congressman beto o'rourke from texas, he needed that after a somewhat poor performance during the first debate, and that did not happen againte tonight. so tomorrow night, we are now looking ahead, again, the issue of electability going to be g front and center. do you have joe biden, kamala harris, cory booker, all sharing center stage tomorrow night. shannon?r >>

the spotlight shining on sanders. not with the kind of attention he's accustomed to with iowa and national polls show him losing ground. standers campaign announcing it raised $18 million over the last three months. he's been surpassed by pete buttigieg who revealed he raised more than 24 million. sanders is responsible for driving much of the policy discussion in the 2020 campaign and shifting the party to the left which was on full display during last week's back to back debates.

is how bernie sanders engages elizabeth warren.ote has been hemorrhaging to her and he has to challenge her. >> so he must challenge. not my friend all night. >> he has to say i was there first and the real progressive otherwise it goes the same direction. the second thing is there is talk about the moderates, the governors people who are more electable than the progressives, they have to deliver tonight. they did not deliver in the first debate. and bullock is new but hickenlooper and they've got a case and i think they're going to have to be explicit about the people at the far left aren't electable and so that is what i'll be looking for from them. >> bakari pick up on the word "deliver." what does delivering look like on the stage tonight? >> in detroit there is a saying that is a clothing company and you see the shirts everywhere, detroit versus everybody. and i expect delaney, klobuchar, hickenlooper, bullock to be those moderates versus everybody. i don't expect much fireworks. i know we're talking about beto probably will t

is that your way of convincing voters you might be a safer choice and senator sanders? >> it is my way of talking about i know how to fight and i know how to win. >> the issue of likability is one of the most important issues, which candidates beat donald trump, all the candidates gave their own answers tonight but peter buttigieg gave an answer that really stood out. listen here. >> nominate me and you get to see the president of the united states stand next to an american war veteran and explain why he chose to pretend to be disabled when it was his chance to serve. >> one candidate who really needed a moment tonight was former congressman beto o'rourke from texas. he needed that after a somewhat poor performance in the first debate and that did not happen tonight. tomorrow night we are looking ahead. the issue of electability going to be front and center. you have joe biden, kamala harris, cory booker all sharing center stage tomorrow night. >> we will be back for that. let's get chief political correspondent and host of special report bret baer for the biggest momen

and sanders did okay. but i think the idea of narrow medicare for all is more challenge today than -- than it was yesterday. i think the last point is that no one mentioned joe biden. not once. >> not once. >> i think he's the winner because they advocated things that he's for without him taking any heat. so i think he came out well last night by being ignored. >> we didn't predict that. we didn't predict that he wouldn't be mentioned. on the elizabeth warren thing, i thought that she did a good job of making a convincing case that even if taxes were to go up for, say, the middle class, that it would be offset by how much less you'd pay for your doctors bills and insurance. >> that's the argument she made. that's the argument bernie sanders made. and it's very persuasive if you don't believe that actually passing a bill or paying for it actually matters. that's where you run into the buzzsaw of popular opinion come does matter in a general election. are you taking away people's private insurance, even if y

senator sanders? was the most searched of the ten candidates in the debate in 49 of the 50 states all but montana, where the governor on stage, steve bullock, was tops. spiritual adviser? well she's different. >> for politicians, including my fellow candidates, who themselves have taken tens of thousands and in some cases hundreds of thousands of dollars from these same corporate donors, to think they now have the moral authority to say we're going to take them on, i don't think the democratic party should be surprised that so many americans believe yada, yada, yada. i live in gross point. what happened in flint would not have happened in gross point. if you think this wonkiness is going to deal with this dark, psychic force of the hatred that this president is bringing up in this country, then i'm afraid that the democrats are going to see some very dark days. >> so, she's interesting. she's different. she's compelling. for those who think she's just along for the ride, she was on with us in the post

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>> jim, there's a guy with a name bernie sanders.ope you will take a look at bernie sanders against donald trump and look at those head-to-head numbers and report back to me what you find. i think you'll find in the 25 of the last 25 polls, bernie sanders is beating donald trump head to head in every poll out there. can you challenge that? >> i can challenge you on -- because we're talking about positions that are his signature issues, which don't have the backing of the majority of democratic voters. of course, those issues are going to be discussed at length in the coming months. >> absolutely. what do you think most people know about bernie sanders? what do you think they know about him? he ran before. in places like michigan, wisconsin, he's crushing donald trump. how do you explain that? >> listen, we'll let the voters decide. i'm just saying, on the signature issues, polls show they don't back those particular issues. that might be factored into the decision. we'll keep up the conversation. >> come back, faiz. we appreciate it.

senator sanders has the high ground.ongly favor medicare for all. 26% say they somewhat favor medicare for all. on the surface, senator sanders carrying the debate. kaiser asked to get a sense of how much democrats understand this. 76% understand everybody would have coverage under medicare for all. 71% taxes would increase for most people. but only 42% understand that doctors and hospitals would be paid less. this is critical as we head into the debates next week. only 25% understand if you have medicare for all you can't keep your employer-provided health care program. sanders and biden will not be on the same stage. but it played out all over this week. >> the system that joe and others are trying to prop up is the most wasteful on earth. >> medicare goes away, as you know it. all the medicare you have is gone. sit a new medicare system. >> that is obviously absurd situation. >> he says, no, you can't have any private insurance if you're there. it's a legitimate position toic ta. i just disagree with it. >> this is nu

-- elizabeth warren and bernie sanders. these turned out to be a fight between the more moderate candidates and those two progressives for the soul of the democrat party and no issue was more apparent than the issue of health care. here is senator bernie sanders responding to some of his opponents who called his plan for medicare for all political suicide. >> you're wrong. right now you have a dysfunctional health care system. >> we should deal with the tragedy of being uninsured and give everyone a health care is a right but why do we have to be a party from taking something away from people? >> we are the democrats. we're not about trying to take away health care from anyone. we should stop using republican talking points. >> i am normally way over there with bernie and elizabeth on this one. i hear the others. >> another issue that really highlighted the divide between the more moderate and progressive candidates on the stage was immigration. >> would you decriminalize illegal border crossings? >> do not play into donald

jake tapper asked bernie sanders to respond to former congress member john delaney's assertion that sanders' cornerstone health care proposal, medicare for all, which seeks to offer free public health care for all americans, was bad policy. right now we have a dysfunctional health care system , 87 million undershooting -- uninsured or underinsured, 500,000 americans going bankrupt because of medical bills, 30,000 people dying while the health-care industry makes tens of billions of dollars in profits. amy: senator elizabeth warren, who also supports medicare for all, how did her progressive track record, taking on wall street. she rubbed her hands together when host don lemmon noted that her proposal for imposing 2% tax on the ultra-wealthy would include john delaney's $65 million personal fortune. she also urged emigrants not to act out of fear in the upcoming elections. not choose a candidate we do not believe in jujust because we e are too scad to do anything else. we cannot ask other people to vote for a candidate we do not believe in. democrats win when we figure out what is right and

i think what you saw last night with bernie sanders and why he won the debate is the real bernie sanderss passionate, he had a clear vision. he was appropriately frustrated with the special interests and he is building a movement for big changes in this country. >> i have tremendous respect for senator warren, i think they both bring important voices and i think it'll be for the voters to decide. i think both clearly had the best night. i think bernie sanders had an incredible night in pushing back and exposing the interests blocking the agenda of reform. >> your going to the border with a group of 19 house democrats, you're going to visit the u.s.-mexico border tomorrow and friday in el paso, texas. of course another issue of disagreement last night was the idea of decriminalizing or rather we should be clear what that is, illegal entrance into the country. do they face charges in criminal court or civil action? bernie sanders of course supports decriminalizing. i wonder how you defend that and how you could argue that would not give additional incentive for people to attempt to enter t

sanders proposes four years. she pays for it by raising taxes on families making more than $100,000 a year. harris today defending her plan right here in detroit. >> frankly, i have a vision of what it should be, and the existing plans that have been offered did not express what i wanted. over the course of these many months, i've heard from people and they want -- they want a different way. and so i went back to the drawing board and said, okay, let's create our own plan. >> with me here in detroit to share their reporting and their insights, cnn's phil mattingly, laur lauren. let's start with senator harris and her version of medicare for all. this has been her frustration, unable to give a consistent answer with what happens to private health insurance. under this plan there's a modest survival if you will. you can have a medicare advantage plan but it does away with the employer-based health care that millions of americans get, so she's moving to the right of sanders. help me out here. >> what it does is it t

bernie sanders has 10. good numbers, but are they numbers you need to be careful not to take for granted? because it's early days. >> no, we don't take it for granted, which is why in his education policy you saw him triple money for title i schools. he's for a summer jobs program. all of his policy recommendations and his vision is centered on working people. when we talk about working clasclas class, most times people think we're talking about white, working class voters but we're not. we're talking about all working class voters and those that aspire to be in the working class. >> you wactched last night. i wonder what you think of elizabeth warren and bernie sanders and marianne williamson essentially saying shoot for the moon. why are you fellow democrats running on these moderate messages that say what we can't do, not what we can do. how does joe biden respond to that, even not on the same stage? but how does he tell voters, i'm not going to promise you the moon and the stars because you can't get th

sanders goes to 22%.ter among college-educated voters, particularly college-educated white voters and especially white voters with an advanced degree. sanders on the other end better with younger voters than warren is doing. as we see, better with lower income, blue collar voters. also he's gotten more traction so far with non-white voters. one of the reasons, i think, you did not see any friction on stage between these two candidates, there is a recognition on the part of each that they are appealing to different coalitions with a very similar message. at some point one of them, they probably both think themselves will emerge and they hope to be able to appeal very naturally to the other side at that point without having alienated their opponent. >> steve kornacki at the big board board, thanks. those who have watched our coverage before know we have friends coming and going and it's a moving cocktail party of a conversation. >> where are the cocktails? >> very good question from the missourian. our than

>> so there's reasons to be for bernie sanders.th warren, against anybody else. >> sandra: bernie sanders' team getting set up with comparisons to elizabeth warren as the two progressives are set to face off in tonight's big democratic primary debate. correspondent peter doocy is live in detroit at the sight of that debate tonight. peter, good evening. >> good evening. elizabeth warren likes to say she's got a plan for everything while bernie sanders likes to say that he said the same progressive platform since before it was part of the democratic mainstream. bernie sanders of course was the runner-up in 2,062 hillary clinton in the democratic primary race and warrant recently revealed that she would've actually accepted the role of clinton running mate if it was offered to her in 2016, but they are both back ahead of 2020 splitting the title of progressive standard-bearer within the democratic party. warren, like sanders, is in her 70s, but she's a newcomer to the presidential nominating process. she said she's not going to try to

as cused of lying about what the sanders plan would do.bles is live at the sanders' event and the senator not just talking policy, he's lauding some pointed attacks at his opponents. >> reporter: yeah, you're right about that, jake. and bernie sanders usually goes out of his way to avoid a direct attack on any of his democratic opponents but this week he is naming names. and it is not a surprise that it is his signature issue of health care that led him to do so. in a week when health care is dominating the 2020 democratic primary, bernie sanders is reminding voters where he stands. >> we cannot continue with the current dysfunctional health care system. >> reporter: sanders, whose popular 2016 campaign included medicare for all, is now testing the position of his fellow democrats, calling on them to reject donations from lobbyists or executives of health insurance and pharmaceutical companies. >> you're looking at an industry which has spent in the last 20 years hundreds of millions of dollars on campaign contributions. >> reporter: his c

caller: bernie sanders. bernie sanders. listen to what he is saying.eal.medicare, green new we are going to have no ice caps in 2029, 11 years. host: you bring up medicare for all, this was discussed and debated last night. take a look at this exchange andeen congressman tim ryan senator sanders. [video clip] >> here we are in detroit and we have all our union friends. this plan being offered will tell those union members who gave away wages in order to get good health care that they are going to lose their health care because washington will come in and tell them they have a better plan. a new and better is move medicare down the 50, allow people to buy in. kaiser permanente said if 60,000 people did that, they will see a 40% reduction in health care cost. >> let's talk about that. if medicare for all is enacted, there are more than 600,000 union members who would be forced to give up private health care plans. i understand it would provide universal coverage, but can you guarantee those union members the benefits will be as good as the benefits their

ago in bernie sanders today. bernie sanders after the election was one of the most beloved people particularly among young people, regardless of whether or not people agreed with his views on socialism. they still liked him. they liked him as everybody's uncle. the polling numbers were quite remarkable. if you look in the last six months, he's been going down virtually every month because bernie sanders 2 isn't wearing very well. he's not in the technological age with his issues. he is repeating a similar wrap, although he's changed it a little bit to be somewhat more about diversity. he hasn't had a really much appeal over into the minority communities. and as i tell you, if sanders and warren both split the progressive vote, than actually it'll make it easier for a moderate to win. they each know that. one of them has to knock out the other, or they are both going to split the vote and they know that. >> laura: i think that he and beto should have a .-offered hoop points better. bernie does the fast point and b

smart move by bernie sanders. pete buttigieg was asked by cnn's chris cuomo about how he'll convey he has the nerve to take on president trump. listen to this. >> i'm not scared of this president. i mean, this is a guy who is working on season 7 of "celebrity apprentice" when i was driving armored vehicles outside the wire in afghanistan. i'm not afraid to take him on. >> sharp attack from the mayor of south bend. two big nights of democratic presidential debates. ten candidates each night starting at 8:00 p.m. tonight, live from detroit here only on cnn. >>> one of the biggest data breaches ever. another one, folks. a hacker gained access to more than 100 million capital one customer accounts and credit card applications. paige thompson is accused of breaking in and gaining access to kansas numbers, 1 million canadian social insurance numbers, 80,000 bank account numbers. she accessed an undisclosed number of names, addresses, credit scores, credit limits, balances. according to the department of justice, thompso

maybe they're happy but bernie sanders criticized the party and the party is moving to sanders not they around. >> back in 2016 donald trump was the big winner because he was elected. but if you look at other winners you look at bernie sanders because his ideas have been thrust into the maritimes of the democratic party. this is what he has always been saying. if you look at the pictures he looks like he does now and seems to be saying the same thing. his revolution was driven from the outside of the party. it was never driven from the inside of the party. >> yeah, i mean i guess that's kind of sometimes when words from your past come back they hurt you i think of perhaps joe wided owe biden but the busing. bernie sanders it may be the opposite, right? >> well maybe the opposite and also where he will have trouble is something ryan pointed out distinctly in the piece is that the hillary clinton supporters are upset at him. i go got to tell you i talk to a lot of the her former advisers there is still anger toward bernie sanders. and couple that with the concern from the cent rift wing

he was talking about sanders and warren. she just gave it right back to him and said, uh-uh, that's not the case. >> you heard from moderates, delaney and others, saying this is wishful thinking, this is a laundry list of wishes, it's not something that's going to be possible and get democrats elected. >> to david's point, we're in a primary where you want to love a candidate, you want passion, you want someone to represent you. there is a hunger in the democratic party for ideas. just saying, you'll lose wisconsin, you'll lose michigan. you might be right, this is an untested proposition what senators sanders and warren are describing, has not happened in our lifetime, that a democrat can run for medicare for all, free college tuition, maybe reparations, health care for undocumented immigrants, a host of liberal proposals way to the left of the last democrat who won, barack obama. way way way way way way way left to bill clinton, the democrat to win before that. my first campaign was dukakis. he was not as liberal. that doe

bernie sanders 2 isn't wearing very well. you know, he's not in the technological age with his issues. he is repeating a similar wrap, although he's changed it a little bit to be somewhat more about diversity. he hasn't had really much appeal over into the minority communities. and as i come back and tell you, if sanders and warren both split the progressive vote, then actually that will make it a lot easier for a moderate to win. they each know that. one of them has to knock out the other or they're both going to split theot vote. they know that. >> laura: i think he and beto o'rourke should have a point off. will points better? bernie does the fast point and beto does the point that wright doesn't really go with what he's saying. epic disconnect on gesticulations. rudy, i've got to get to you on this. at democrat voters are repeatedly saying -- mark knows this well -- that they don't really care that much if the candidate meshes with all their views. they want to beat trump. that's the golden goose that they have to get.t t

you served as co-chair of the bernie sanders 2020 campaign and sanders as you just saw in the poll has dropped four points. how do you explain why other progressive candidates right now are seeing a dramatic surge in their poll numbers? >> well, there is no doubt that kamala harris had a good night in the debate. and i give her credit. but we should remember, wolf, that at this point in the cycle donald trump was at 1% or 2% and barack obama was way down to hillary clinton. so the poll numbers as you know will change and we're still a long way from caucus day in iowa. >> i saw how dramatic the increase in popularity according to this poll for kamala harris, a nine-point bump in the poll. could her growing popularity, congressman, explain why you think she was recently targeted by donald trump jr.? >> i do. those were disgusting attacks by donald trump jr. engaging in birtherism and every democrat should condemn them. look, kamala harris had a terrific night. she articulates a vision of a pluralistic america very well and she's a compelling candidate. she's a serious contender that we s

her gains are coming out of bernie sanders base, so that is existential threat for bernie sanders. expect those folks to clash even if they try to do it politely because they are directly competing for the same base of voters. >> joe, what will you be watching for? >> well, i think given the fact that kamala harris has dropped back down, you know, the obvious thing is sanders and warren. but i think we're going to see three or four other candidates, particularly the governors, trying to provide this counter wave. i think hickenlooper yesterday signalled that he's going to go after sanders and warren, sort of like, we can't afford this, this is all crazy and governor bullock, this is his first time so i think he has a chance. no one did it very well in the first debate so i'll be watching to see if he can do the, hey, this is all crazy. there's a general election for all of us to win here, and warren and sanders, very nice things but you're not going to get elected on this stuff. >> two things i want to do, one to explain to our viewers, behind us we have actual demonstrators or sup

i encourage the sanders campaign to look at that.sue of cost, what she has said and proposed is that families making as little as $29,000 a year will have to pay an extra 4% tax to help pay for this, which she's saying that that's too much of a burden. i'm going to raise the threshold to $100,000 and i'm going to make up the difference for a wall street trade tax. >> one thing sanders campaign is saying, they've taken a pledge we're not going to take money from the industry. kamala harris has taken some money from the pharmaceutical industry? is she going to join them in that? >> sanders also took some money from the pharmaceutical companies before he gave it back. and senator harris is not taking any money from pharmaceutical executives. i think that blurs the line of what the issue is. >> everyone the laying out their plans, but the standards campaign came out really hard and fast after you laid out this plan. welcome to the big leagues. but do you think it's a cheap shot or do you think this is a true difference of position on pol

bernie sanders talked about corporate media.o you think is the primary issue with the corporate media in sanders' terms? is it the focus on personality over issues? >> yeah, i that's right. i think there tends to be overfocus on personalities. rile concede bernie sanders occasionally can be grumpy anding and tated because he's upset about a system failing people and he gets frustrated operating within a system he doesn't believe is being conducted fairly. people read into that either i just don't like him, i find him annoying or i find his mo moralism the fact that he is criticizing established powers and the power structures as they are, i find that to be a personal criticism. when a person goes on msnbc and says he makes my skin crawl, what is that about? it's a personal criticism. i don't think it would be tolerated of any other candidate. i hope that msnbc and other candidates, other networks are looking at themselves and saying are we treating him as fairly as we'd treat others. >> when i looked back at 2016, one of my regr

senator sanders is not new to this.e american people to understand that you will know a tree by the fruit that it bears, not just folks who come into this epiphany because they're running for president but somebody who's been on the justice journey for a long time and also who will nautica pit late, who has an anti-endorsement list. has a list of multimillion beai and billionaires -- he was polling in 2016 as the candidate that could go head-to-head with donald trump and defeat him and that's still the case. and he brings an energy, chuck. it's about who brings the energy and senator sanders brings that heat. >> i know it was very important to senator sanders to contrast himself with vice president biden the last debate. he doesn't get that opportunity this time. is that something that you feel like he can still do or is it much harder when that candidate isn't on stage? >> i mean his vision for this country is the contrast. i mean you have in the vice president who stood up before million tie millionaires and billionai

and bernie sanders slipping.is poll, not terribly different with the cnn poll of polls out this morning. it's a fairly stable race for the last week or two. you can see joe biden again comfortably in front. and then the story here is this race for second place. between senator kamala harris, bernie sanders, and elizabeth harris. this is different than a month ago. and part of the rise of elizabeth warren is policy. no question about it. she's come out and proposed a lot of things. she's out with a new immigration plan which you've taken a look at, some of the legal sides of it. talk about the policy before we break down the polls here a little bit. she wants to decriminalize what is now illegal immigration. and she wants to open up some prosecution of mistreatment of undocumented immigrants. both those pose some problems. >> i think there are good law enforcement reasons for the crime of illegally entering the country. i've seen that used to good effect during my time as a prosecutors. i'm concerned about decrimi

could you back sanders? would you vote for sanders? >> yes, i'll support the democrat. we have a lawless president. >> sanders is the democrat. >> he's going to running as a democrat. i'll work hard to change his mind. i'll win. so i don't worry about that. >> thank you. delaney. big fight tonight. >> all right. thank you. joy reid, there's the debate. take any or all. >> first of all, that was the first time tonight i heard the word socialist used. if john delaney's goal was come onto the stage and paint sanders as a socialist, which he's a democratic socialist. he gave speech talking about socialism. which is his biggest challenge. that would be if that was hit with that in the general election. it would be true. >> right. >> that would be the frame around him. >> he never did it. why did he take the shot now after the debate is over? rather than turn to him and say senator sanders, what -- if he thinks it's socialism. ask him that. that's a wasted moment on his part. it's all about framing. right? warren has the advantage of being really good at explaining things at

you have sanders who suddenly has become very angry. he really was, as somebody said, a little bit like the angry uncle who showed up at thanksgiving, and nobody wanted to set him off because he'd start waving his arms and yelling. [laughter] and, you know, his one comment was absurd, i know what's in it, i wrote the bill. well, lots of congressmen and senators write bills. remember obamacare, you yet to keep your doctor and insurance? none of it was true. i don't care if we trust bernie's interpretation of bernie's own bill, but the big winner last night, i think without any question, was donald trump. steve: but also the american people, mr. speaker, got a really good chance to see where the democratic party is, the state of the democratic party right now. because you had people who were moderate, to left of center, and then to you had some super left who had all sorts of plans that, you know, as john delaney told us a little while ago, fairy tale ideas. >> yeah. i think it's going to be interesting to watch the evolution of the next

let me go to senator sanders right now. senator sanders?lions of people lose their health insurance every single year when they change jobs or their employer changes that insurance. if you want stability in the health care system, if you want a system which givers you freedom of choice with regard to doctor or hospital, which is a system which will not bankrupt you, the answer is to get rid of the profits of the drug companies and -- >> thank you, senator. >> now he's talking about a different issue. what i'm talking about is really simple. we should deal with the tragedy of uninsured and give everyone health care as a right but why do we have to take something away from people? >> no one is the party -- >> hold on -- >> they are running on telling half the country that your health insurance is illegal and says it right in the bill. >> all right. >> thank you. >> we don't have to do that. we can give everyone health care and allow people to have choice. that's the american way. >> senator warren? >> look, let's be clear about this. we are t

bernie sanders came to win. out there and that was his fight, i believe, against elizabeth warren. yes, they were friends but he dominated. but i did like elizabeth warren when she talked about hbcus. she was very clear about adding money for hbcus. but my mvp as we go back to channelling -- >> how you get two winners? >> i have a win and i have an mvp. because i'm april ryan. >> okay. okay! all right. >> my mavp was marianne williamson. she came to play. she did not do the girlfriend shtick we shaugt she wthought s to do. she was inspirational and aspirational. and she put on the table general sherman's -- >> special order number 50. >> yes. talking that abraham lincoln signed off on. but it never was kept. the promise was never kept. 40 acres and a yumule. what is the calculation today? >> her math was off. for her to say do the math and had the wrong math, she had me up until that. >> i think bernie sanders and everyone who knows me knows i'm not a big bernie sanders fan, bernie sanders came last night and he