has bernie sanders is senator sanders worked on sen, management, mansion, sen, cinema. is he gone on the book, the famous joe mentioned boat have they tried to find ways outside this divide to say, hey, you know, let, let's get beyond this and find things. what is the nature of the politicking behind the scenes that we may not be privy to? that are either hopeful or not? yes, so 1st of all, very sanders is gonna dimensions boat or any other boat, because he's not big socialize or that kind. however, don't take that to me that the he isn't in conversation with joe mentioned for short. that is the case. he has been talking to joe mentioned on the senate floor and in a lot of other venues over the past few months. they have been candid with each other about their disagreements, but you know, center sanders been very clear. i supported you to be here in this caucus 1st for senate because i understand that we need to santander from west virginia, democratic center for west virginia. we need to hold the majority, but we also have to deliver. so joe, like at least be a good ne

and this is a very different senator sanders.hinks manchin is out of concern. >> my concern with mr. manchin is not so much what his views are. i disagree with him, but it is that it is wrong. it is really not playing fair that one or two people think that they should be able to stop what 48 members of the democratic caucus want, what the american people want, what the president of the united states wants. >> manu is back with us. fixed the technical problem. sanders said i could listen things up, i want the medicare reform and single-payer health care, 50-50 senate, come my way, i won't do it. i'm part of a family, i have to compromise. come on, manchin. >> that's exactly the point he's been making publicly and privately and the question is can they get together? mean, they need every single member of the democratic caucus because one of them can scuttle this. this is what the real concern is among democrats because the belief is that if manchin and sanders can get on the same page, keithin sinema, too, on the manchin wing, that

is bernie sanders no matter what. for 55 years. he is a kerr margin. he is authentic and people who like bernie sanders is a big clearly clinton supporter. >> they rejected him. >> soundly rejected him. >> even the democratic party. >> joe biden even i am not bernie sanders not a socialist i don't think of things about communism and that is how he got elected here. i believe biden, we talked about the previous block is hyperaware he is two years to get sweeping legislation. to get lbj, fdr can look at who has in the walls in his office the american rescue plan does go a long way toward that. take each of the issues in the spending bill individuals you can get votes that way. >> c7 he wasn't elected to be lbj or fdr he was elected frankly because a lot of people aren't happy with donald trump and donald trump made them uncomfortable premier in the middle of an epidemic piece heal the nation is called the other direction. >> joe biden was not elected because everyone was joe biden it was because he wasn't donald trump a

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no disrespect meant to bernie sanders, but an op-ed in a west virginia newspaper for bernie sanders, know how many joe manchin voters that -- >> three voters for bernie sanders in all of west virginia. >> he didn't do that bad in the 2016 primaries, in west virginia, but does that change the field? >> everybody has their own politics. bernie sanders isn't just doing this to affect west virginia. he's also doing this to show that he's fighting for this package so that his voters know it's going to occur. the neighborhood i grew up in, don't start none there won't be none. his return fire on bernie sanders was effective. he's an independent democratic socialist and nobody in west virginia is listening to that person. the question here is for people like joe manchin who think of themselves as majoritymakers for the democrats, they have to be careful he has to be careful he's not a majority taker. if they don't get a deal done here, people like raphael warnock who is up next year. he's not up in four years like manchin. he's up next year. he needs these deals to be done and joe manchin a

good evening, rachel, you have bernie sanders tonight. >> do i have bernie sanders tonight. boy, did he have a lot to say. i've interviewed him many times, i haven't had this much anticipation to talk to him. >> a lot going on. >>> thanks to you at home for joining us. as chris mentioned, senator bernie sanders will join us live tonight in just a few minutes. i do want to address just a quick personal matter here before we go on to the news, if you will indulge me for just a second. a couple of months ago susan and i went to a minor league baseball game. i sat on the aisle. she sat to my left. our team won. it was a fantastic game. i bought like all the swag, i ate all the hot dogs, it was a great time. minor league baseball i am convinced is god's gift to american spectator sports. at our local minor league baseball park, box seats are six bucks. the parking is free. the players are really good, but nobody really cares who wins. at this particular minor league game i went to with susan, i'm sitting on her right, she's sitting on my left. i caught her giving me a squinty eye

senator sanders, it's a real pleasure to have you here tonight. thank you for making time. >> thank you for having me. >> you always speak your mind. you never leave any ambiguity or shadow or gray area in terms of what you want and what you're seeking and why. still, though, it was remarkable to hear your blunt language today about your senate democratic colleague, about senator manchin and how you feel like he's essentially behaving in an unfair way. what led you to that point today? >> well, i think there is a growing frustration, not only in the congress but among the american people, that now is the time, rachel, for us to try to restore the faith of the american people in their democracy and in their government, that we in fact can do meaningful things for them, that we can improve their lives. and all that we are trying to do in many ways is to do what countries all over the world are doing. is it really very radical to say that older people in america should not have rotting teeth in their mouth or should not be able to afford hearing aids

and sanders is not in a room with manchin negotiating. the president joked in fact, it would be homicide to put them together. why? because they're being jerks to each other using, yes, the mainstream media. sanders also patrolled manchin with an op-ed in the charleston gazette newspaper, the mainstream media he is blaming for not selling the provisions in the bill, providing sanders a platform to sell the provisions in the bill as he blames them. there is one thing that everyone in the senate can agree on, though, as usual, recess. more time to not sit in a room together and negotiate as another self-imposed deadline swiftly approaches. >>> you know, one thing you're not talking about if you're talking about the media? what's in the bill! >> correct. he likes to do this, though. if you look, he likes to blame the media for a lot of things. it's kind of one of his, you know, function buttons. >> that seems to be a bipartisan trend now. >> yes. >>> the man behind the steele dossier speaking out for the first time on camera. does he still t

listen to bernie sanders moments ago. i want your view on the significance of this when bernie sanders says maybe not. >> members of the house in my view are going to have to have some insurance. what we've said as all you know from day one that both of these bills are linked. i support the the infrastructure bill, but i want to see a strong build back better bill as well, and they are linked together, so what you don't want to see is the infrastructure bill pass and then not have the kind of build back better bill that we need and that's why you need 50 members on board before there should be a vote in my view in the house. >> david chalian, president wanted his friend bernie sanders to back the president. >> the critical words at the end of what sanders just said, before are -- there should not be a vote before there is a bill to see. that is a message to house progressives to defy, to defy the speaker, to defy what the president and his team would like to see happen today in the immediate term and get nag infrastructur

i agree with bernie sanders.eone needs to stand toe to toe with joe biden -- i mean with joe manchin. but also i believe that the -- they shouldn't go no lower than 1.9 trillion. because of so much that has to be done and i believe that bernie and the progressives, all it takes the one of them. just like manchin and sinema, it takes one of them to say, we're not going to budge. thank you. >> one of the follow-ups to that story between joe manchin and bernie sanders is from "the hill" and in that story the headline of that story on the money, it all comes down to bernie and joe and they write that senator manchin told democratic colleagues that he will work with bernie sanders and senate majority leader chuck schumer to reach a deal by week's end. according to sources familiar with the lunch, manchin said he thought a general agreement would be possible by friday. sounding a more optimistic tone behind closed doors than he did when asked by reporters earlier in the week about the meeting on october 31st deadline.

comeback was to say i beat bernie sanders. it's very interesting to watch now. bernie sanders wanted $6 trillion. he came down to 3. 5 trillion. now mansion wants 1.5 trillion. so nancy pelosi is trying to work out something that is somewhere in the neighborhood of around 2 trillion. still an enormous amount of money when you say couple down from 3 1/2 to 2 trillion. it's still a lot of money. and then the question becomes will the progressives vote for the infrastructure bill with the promise of a frame work or do they have to wait to see a vote, a passage of the social spending bill in the senate. if that will happen, we're talking days or weeks before that. kyrsten sinema is not even in washington. she's in phoenix. there's not been a word written on the legislative language for reconciliation in the senate. we're talking ant a bill. i'm sure it thousands of pages. that will take awhile to write. that would be a setback for joe biden, not necessarily fatal but a real setback be he can't get a deal with the progressive sayin

aides just told me they have spoken to senator sanders and senator sanders is apparently telling progressives not to get on board just yet because of the lack of trust with senator manchin and kyrsten sinema that they aren't on board and president biden is going to say there's a broad framework. but they want to know if there's a commitment of those two senators to vote for this legislation and that is what these progressives say they have not yet heard. so it's going to be up to president biden to close this deal and to convince these progressives that they need to get on board. right now all these members are walking in behind me, and, you know, it depends on what faction of the party you're coming from and what they're saying. i just saw representative josh got jeimer, a moderate out of new jersey said he's running out of red bull and still has the chall pain on ice. there's still a lot of questions here, it's going to take president biden to make the sale inside. we'll see if he can do that. >> you can tell the congress that is a cocktail, red bull and champagne, who doesn't like that. eu

senator bernie sanders of vermont tonight.ow compromise is supposed to work, a blunt message to his colleagues, senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. specifically talking about manchin by, name to put it mildly it's not something we usually see of senators in the same party talking about each other in such blunt terms. it's a remarkable turn for senator sanders today, i'm eager to know what made him decide to do that today, joining us now is vermont senator bernie sanders. he's chair of the senate budget committee. senator sanders, it's a real pleasure to have you here tonight. thank you for having time. >> thank you for having me. >> you always speak your mind, you never leave any ambiguity or shadow or a gray area in terms of what you, roy and what you're seeking. and why. still though it was remarkable to hear your blunt language, today about your senate democratic colleague, about senator manchin. and how you feel like he's essentially behaving in an unfair way, what led you to that point today. >> i think there is a gr

manu raju is speaking to bernie sanders, a key figure in the negotiations.it and right now has 1,500 paid lobbyists here in washington to make sure we don't lower the contrast of prescript drugs. to my mind, anything in a serious reconciliation bill must include real medicare negotiations with the pharmaceutical industry to lower the cost of prescription drugs. that's probably the issue most on people's minds. maybe the issue second most on people's minds is the understanding that it is really insane that in the wealthiest country in the history of the world we have tens of millions of americans, older americans, who have no teeth in their mouth or are unable to digest the food they're eating, people who cannot hear and communicate with their grandkids because they have no hearing aids, people unable to see this as america, the richest country in the world. any reconciliation bill must include serious negotiations on the part of medicare with the pharmaceutical industry, lower the cost of prescription drugs. that's what the american people want. a serious re

a sanders aide wrote this. so please cut senate democrat leadership team from the headline. power panel weighs in. jonna called well, fox news political analyst with us today and leslie marshall fox news contributor. great to see you both. what is at play do you think? why doesn't senator sanders want to say what's wrong? we all know the difference between right and wrong and that was wrong. >> i think for senator sanders, this is even more problematic for him than any other democrat in the senate not signing onto the letter. keep in mind one of his supporters tried to take out murder republicans at a baseball game. one of his supporters. so he should be one of the first to jump on to sign the letter. it is indicative of polling we saw in november of 2018. 80% of americans fear political violence. now we see polling as early as this year in march where nearly 1 in 3 americans feel that taking violent actions is appropriate when a politician refuses to protect the country. whatever that means. democrats should b

or if there were 51 senators that shared all of senator sander's view. that's not the way our government is organized. i don't get to decide all on my own how congress will act and neither does any single senator. i do think it's a point that senator manchin ought to take heed of that while senator sanders doesn't get 100% of what he wants, neither can senator manchin. there's got to be some rationale common ground that can be found. >> very well-put. dan kilde, thanks very much. thanks for the kind words. coming up next, the ohio senator not running for re-election, rob portman. very good to have you here with us. obviously republicans are not keen on any of this. they're not going to vote for any of this. are you encouraged at least by some of the signs that are out there that at least the overall price tag is coming down? >> well, i suppose that's good but it's a terrible time too raise taxes. all of these proposals involve raising taxes and stimulus spending. you and i talked about this before. this is the wrong time for a lot of reasons. one it will

bernie sanders saying in an op-ed in a 50/50 senate we need every democratic senator to vote yes and we only have two-- 48. senator manchin releasing a statement on twitter hitting back on sanders and congress should proceed with all sorts of caution and i'm out of time, but the battle continues. have a good one. ♪ ♪ >> jon: millions of dollars worth of goods remain in limbo as cargo ships are lined up outside congested ports waiting to be processed. shipping giants including wal-mart, ups, and fedex pledged to work overtime to hold -- help address the backlog. this amid rising prices from many household essentials including food and gas. the white house faces mounting pressure to address the ongoing crisis, which some experts say might last well into next year. house budget committee ranking member jason smith will join us a few minutes from now with his reaction. but we begin tonight with david spunt who is live at the white house. david? >> jon good evening to you. not much more time left in 2021. the clock is ticking, but the supply chain crisis may follow us into the new year. a

he did. >> bernie sanders was fighting on medicare for all. that's not part of this, but let me ask you this -- >> to lower the prescription drug prices. >> to a larger point, why wouldn't biden want to take the victory? >> a $1.5 trillion? you're right. they promised the moderates -- >> what money by the way? $1.5 trillion plus -- >> plus $1.9 trillion in january. >> and your tax cuts? >> it doesn't even count. i understand that you want the american people to give their money rather than keep it themselves. i get that, that's fine. you can spend it better. >> you know how much money we spent every day in afghanistan and got nothing to show for it? let's talk about how much it cost, and how many lives we were going to save, and how many people we were going to educate, and how many seniors can have the comfort of being able to take their medicine. >> if you get it passed. let's play what president biden said yesterday expressing some real frustration at two democrats in particular. >> if we can bring the moderates and progressives together, w

kennedy: how are bernie sanders and joe manchin still in the same party?ny we are supposed to think they are so far apart when they are both in favor of this massive spending package. it wasn't that long ago people freaked out over $700 billion in troubled asset expenditure to fail bank and even low estimates like the joe manchin moderate is still two to three times what was so they are both seeming extreme relative to bernie sanders, anybody might look moderate on the spending. kennedy: bernie sanders has to be upset because -- and he set this out loud in front of cameras that he thought 6 trillion was a good start. about 1.75 would be an appropriate ceiling and for what bernie sanders wants to do, and about is going to get done. one of the biggest sticking points, bernie wanted medicare for all and in this bill, there would be some medicare expansion but the reason manchin is so powerful here is he's not going to allow a program that's going to insolvency in five years be expanded further to cover things and already can't afford. >> it's amazing how much

you've got senator sanders telling house progressives not to vote on infrastructure. congresswoman jayapal is a no, and i say where does this end, not just for the president but frankly for the american people? >> look. they are trying to keep their leverage. don't forgot. these are democrats arguing with democrats. it's not like these are democrats arguing with republicans and joe biden went up there today and effectively did what ronald reagan used to do which is to say, look, just win one for the gipper. we've got to get this done. it's not hyperbolic to say my entire presidency is on the line here, and yet -- and yet there are still problems, and, you know, this was a high-risk thing for biden to do, and it's not over. the question that i would ask is what's the alternative here for progressives? would progressives rather have nothing to take back to -- to voters in the mid-term elections, or would they rather have something to take back to voters, and i think that that's the sort of overarching theme here. the problem is that the progressives don't trust manchin

that is what bernie sanders supports.s his left-wing mob going after fellow democrat senator supports that using force and intimidation. that is in his playbook. he is, i'm a parent liz. listen, when you have brat at this kids, if you let bratty kids be bratty you celebrate their brattiness you get more bratty kids. you have to reprimand kids, right? so the liberal base, the liberal media should actually come down hard on the people who are going after senators in the bathroom? really? i had that happen to me. they give the radicals a pass instead of holding them to account. elizabeth: people should remember this number. the reason why it is 50-50 for democrats in the senate is because they have narrowest margin in a century. why? the senator, republican senator out of georgia, david perdue, he lost by just 13,500 votes. that's it. that is why they're in charge right now, 13,500 votes in georgia. that is why it is 50-50 in the senate. that is why democrats in control. senators, wanted statement to urge kyrsten sinema to d

couldn't senator sanders and senator manchin's in the same room, talk about it, one-on-one. obviously they've got both got points to make. if they talk about a one-on-one, in the same room, at length, could they get somewhere? those of us watching from the cheap sheets, have sort of had that instinct all along. while today those conversations finally happened. sources telling nbc news tonight, that during the conversation between jayapal and manchin, each of them laid out their priorities for the build back better bill. they reportedly did not get into a specific back and forth over how they were going to resolve their differences. but they each laid out their case to one another, directly, in the same room, at length. and again, this was the first meeting between jayapal and manchin and it went on quite a while apparently, about two hours. and, also, today senator manchin held another one-on-one meeting, with senator bernie sanders. following that meeting, a notably should chipper senator manchin, even stop to picture stop where picture. -- while the two were leaving the ca

sanders added, "it's not coming out." more on what could be final negotiations, we are joined in washington, d.c., by congressmember ro khanna. congressmember, welcome back to democracy now! it is a lot of numbers being thrown around, but let's talk about the specific measures most upper example, the last one. adding the vision, hearing and dental care to medicare. explain what is being proposed and what are the cuts here. >> senator sanders is absolutely right. this is the most popular part of the build back better agenda -- not an opinion, a fact if you look at the polling -- and it is not coming out. we will push very hard to make sure it stays in. it is quite clear what it is. seniors right now have to pay thousands of dollars to get dental care. they can't afford to get hearing aids and then comes out of pocket. they can't afford often the vision, eyeglasses, or tngs they need to take care of their eyes. none of that is covered. under senator sanders' plan, it would. details are being negotiated but i know this is a

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senator bernie sanders there. a voice of the progressive wing of the democratic party talking about the framework that we've been talking about here. and you heard the senator talk about being somewhat disappointed that the build back better plan, the framework, at least, does not include a number of things that he thought should be in that bill, including paid family medical leave, including medicare benefits that would extend to dental care and eyeglasses as well. i'm told we also have a statement here, and i'll read it aloud from senator kyrsten sinema as well. someone else who has been a hold out, if you will. i'll just read it verbatim. after months of productive good think negotiations with president biden and the white house, we have made significant progress on the proposed budget reconciliation package. i look forward to getting this done, expanding economic opportunities, and helping everyday families get ahead. again, we just heard there from senator sanders, and we're hearing a statement now from the a

and senator sanders claimed is necessary and a compromise. manchin is in the drivers seat. and several other of his colleagues. and to keep this thing past. it is pretty large, not as large as advertised. todd: senator chuck schumer plans to pass both components of president biden's agenda by halloween. manchin doesn't see how that happens. people across the country rising up against covid vaccine mandates, some losing their jobs and livelihoods. jillian: parents, police and football coaches push back against the mandate madness. >> reporter: mask protests erupting across california to demonstrate against vaccine mandates for students with many keeping kids home to fight against governor gavin newsom's on requiring kids 5 to 18 to get vaccinated. >> to see results, to make sure they pay for our kids. >> they are too young, no studies, we should wait for a couple years, what is going to happen in the long run. >> reporter: vaccine mandates hitting law enforcement in several big cities, chicago mayor lori lightfoot lashing out at police unions for inducing and insurrectionist

laura: what happened to senator sanders?letely abandoned american workers if this language is allowed to stay in this legislation. >> i wrote them friday to let him know this was in the bill. perhaps he didn't know. i'm surprised to find myself agreeing on anything with bernie sanders but in this case if you wants to protect the american worker we are on the same page. i don't know where he will come out on this but this bill has so many other problems. the big issue here is we are going to harm american workers, take away the opportunity for our kids. i was meeting with community leaders encouraging them to get young people to focus on stem education, this is something i think we've got to focus on and make an opportunity for our youth. we've got new high-tech jobs coming to tennessee. i want these kids ready for these jobs was less than we want is for those jobs to be given to foreign workers, much worse than what bernie sanders is talking about, he was talking guest workers, these are permanent residents and they would al

it because bernie sanders carries a lot of weight. the fact that the things that he cares the most about in this bill right now getting 'em back in, expanding medicare, making it a certain thing that seniors have hearing and have vision and have dental. and also, being able to negotiate prescription drug prices which, you know, erin, that is very, very popular out in the real world to be able to have that, to be able to lower drug prices for people. the fact that he doesn't feel like he is going to get that right now, there clearly has to be another side negotiation or discussion going on about how he can get that elsewhere if it doesn't happen here because it's not just his vote, it is his stance on this that matters in terms of votes and also matters in terms hof how this is going e to be looked upon by democrats. >> it's more spending, it's more pay fors which is a whole separate can of worms right now. dana, thank you very much. i want everyone to know dana has a new special report exploring the real impact of lies about election

that is an issue that bernie sanders says is a redline for him. joe manchin disagrees. is important not just because of the personalities at issue here because in the senate, all 50 democrats need to agree in order for this bill to move forward. if one senator -- joe manchin or kyrsten sinema -- two of the leading moderates here -- were to defect, that will be enough to scuttle the entire biden agenda. and hanging in the balance, too, is that separate infrastructure bill that has already passed the senate. sanders has warned -- urged house democrats not to support that bill until that larger package is agreed to by manchin and sinema. so, so much here is riding on the line in the weeks ahead. bernie sanders leaving the meeting, told me i hope we can see some real action in the next week. another top democrat, dick durbin, told me there is high anxiety among democrats right now to get a deal. but manchin, himself, was pessimistic that they can reach a deal by the end of this month. the new deadline for democratic leaders, though, erin, still uncertain how they get there

bernie sanders who is budget committee chairman and represents viewpoint of the left, pushing back at the moderates in his own caucus. kyrsten sinema and joe manchin over two key issues emerging as major sticking points. allowing medicare to negotiate drug prices, something that senator sinema along with house moderates have resisted and expanding medicare to include dental, vision and hearing. joe manchin said that would be fiscally irresponsible to include in the bill and moments ago bernie sanders made it clear both need to be in the final package. >> so to my mind any serious reconciliation bill must include real medical negotiations with the pharmaceutical industry to lower the cost of prescription drugs and serious reconciliation bill must include expanding medicare to cover dental, hearing aids and eyeglasses. >> is that a red line for you? is that a red line for had you? not only is there division on the policy still but, again, on the process. replaying this debate that the democrats had back in september. the liberals want the larger bill agreed to, signed off on and approve

the public is way more where bernie sanders is than they are. where most centrist democrats are, they want to reduce an equality, they want the rich to pay their share, they want to abolish student debt. you know, they want to live in a more equal and healthy society. and yet, but we obviously have the coven pandemic, killing hundreds of thousands of americans. do you think the us all a galks? i mean, actually incentivized by covey. they made a lot of money from it, haven't they? you've been talking about how, how much money they have made, just as only god made money at the opioid crisis course, which killed so many. yeah, no, i mean, i think one of the powerful juxtapositions right now is u. s. billionaires have seen their wealth, go up almost 2 trillion dollars during the pandemic. this is an embarrassment, and this is, and you know, just to post with the loss of life and the loss of livelihoods for so many people. that's where some of the populist anger about inequality is coming from. and there's a tiny segment, i think, of the oligarchy wh

i felt kind of like bernie sanders. i was like, this is a prime example of why the well thing i was little with and reciting a speeches. i'm like the wealthy need to pay their fair share. there was a charity group oxfam international. we're saying specifically this is where, you know, are missing the hospitals are and this is a, it's a prime example of it. we would actually one of the arguments on the right don't work, which is this idea that you don't need the government to regulate the wealthy and, and force them to pay taxes that they'll do it on their own. it's quite clear from this, this nice findings that they absolutely will not do it on their own. and just the links that they will go to, to not recently that money and put money toward things like hospitals and things that everyone uses. that the tax system is meant to benefit and if the u. s. went went up something closer to say a flat tax, do you think taxpayers would actually be able to get ahead and spend the money? they make incentive being tax on what they

both the trump ers and the bernie sanders, people will all agree. the rules, the economy have been rig to benefit the very wealthy. and then the question is, what do you do about it? and people have different solutions, but that from visceral gut analysis is broadening. that's what i see changing. ok. well, putting my oligarch hat on, i'd say to you, look at the pandora papers, no one the l. a u. s. a wealth advisory firm is on that. if you look at the map of the world until russia, there's nothing, nothing wrong going on in the united states at all. the other countries? well, you know, here's the problem. all the leaks came from officer services companies outside the united states, and that's not the place where u. s. oligarchy are going to go for their, you know, wealth defense services. we, we need a couple of good leaks from some of these trust companies. and if anyone's listening and they want to contact me, i can help you, you know, disclose your information confidentially. because that will actually help shift the u. s. dynamic. the fact that

when there was a valid socialist like bernie sanders on the ballot. as we know from wiki leaks, there was a deliberate sabotaged campaign from the clinton side of the dnc against him. so when it comes to real power and fundamental power, and i'm sure you've been watching all the negotiations, the book barrel politics is they've been gold. is it? is it all words about the quality rather than actual attacks on wealth foundations, on investment banks and investment income? well, the kinds of things that really need to be tackled well, clearly the, i mean, the us political system has been captured by these wealthy interests by the corporate interests. and so they, within what happens in washington, d. c is highly constrained by that. the good news is, the popular base and opinion of people is changing and ultimately that'll shift the politics the public is way more where bernie sanders is than they are. where most centrist democrats are, they want to reduce inequality. they want the rich to pay their share, they want to abolish student debt. you know, the

sanders thinks it's because the rich are too rich.hinks we're giving too much money from the government and expanding government too much and that's leading to inflation making it harder to get people to be able to afford their everyday needs. so those very fundamental very major differences in policy thoughts makes it harder for biden to come with, get everyone in the back room and figure it out. >> i just want to talk about that because the new cnn poll, you take a look at kind of where democrats and independents land on things, and you kind of get into maybe what senator manchin is looking at versus what bernie sanders is looking at. would you have all safety net policies, climate change policies. independents only 30%. includes fewer policies, democrats only 20%. not pass any bill at all, democrats 4%, independents at 32%. it's not democrat versus democrat there. democrats are very behind these proposals. the vast majority of both caucuses are behind these proposals. bernie sanders has been a good soldier for the better part of th

sanders. and that's fundamentally is his problem. is the country wanted bernie sanders agenda they would have elected him. instead they gave us a 50/50 senate. they increased the number of republicans in the house of representatives. and they wanted some pushback. i think joe manchin, kyrsten sinema they are doing their party a favor in checking these ambitions. this is what the country voted for. they didn't vote for bernie sanders' agenda. >> mike: jonah, as the hours go by, do the various camps get further dug in or does it, perhaps, lead to some negotiation? >> i think there will be more negotiation. i think they will probably come up with a number that is too high for me and too low for progressives but they will get something across the finish line, i would guess. no one really knows. i want to sort of dissent a little bit from my colleagues here. i agree that this is the process as we have come to know it in the last few years or even decade or so. this is not a normal process. the way

the american people and again, this is we're bernie sanders and mog america, the sanders people in mog america come together. we want to drain the swamp, whether it's pelosi going from being worth, you know, $610000000.00 to $100000000.00 in the last 15 years. or anybody else, i'd pick somebody i don't mind, but this will, it gets a scandal of the top order. when the insiders continue to exploit their position against we the people and again, my number one thing would be more transparency. let's let everybody see it. then it's up to we the people and, and the, and the media said to get after. now this is where it breaks down a little bit. you covered the story before natasha about facebook and about social media and big tech. they got their blinders on because they're making money off the get of the racket to and so this big media. so we've got to worry when the investigative or think about the investigative reporters politico proved a month ago, that biden's laptop was real. and yet we have no one of the of you know, woodward and bernstein, they're running around still cover, entrench

intended for sanders.and ten with 8:46 left in the fourth. >> cris: i like that nick bolton but i think i like josh allen better. how would you describe josh allen? >> al: i would describe him as a guy whose graph has gone straight up in the four leagues he has been in the league. >> cris: no question! it's unbelievable the difference in everything. the first two years, very mediocre. very mediocre. last year, phenomenal. it looks like he is picking up now where he was a year ago. >> al: d-1 option from high school. soft pass is caught by moss. he takes it to the 40. allen came out of a fireball in california a little town in the central valley. he went to junior college and then went to wyoming. that was the only place that really offered him any kind of a scholarship. fire ball known for the cantaloupe roundup. they were cantaloupe farmers. you knew that, right? >> cris: sounds like cattle. you had to round cantaloupe up? they are not going anywhere. >> al: you never lassoed a cantaloupe? from the 40 yar

from outside, there is the perception that there's not a lot of movement, and senator sanders -- sanders there's a lot of focus on the fight but not the content, but the fight is about what is going to be in the legislation. they simply have not agreed on what will be in it. will childcare be for everyone? will paid family leave fee for everyone? will universal pre-k be universal? will senior set a series -- citizens get their medicare expanded? >> they don't know. judy: i feel like i'm asking this question every monday. some people said, it is just of that drama >> they go through. >>it is a drama. i feel like i said this before, but it is important to say this every time. what the biden administrion is attempting to do with this humongous package, trillions of dollars, we've never seen anything like this pass through a senate is 50/50 where the democratic house speaker -- we are talking about the eye of the needle. very small majorities. every one of these packages we've talked in the past, big reconciliation bills, the party pushing it forward could've afforded to lose 30 or 40 house

joe biden and bernie sanders got multiple homes.si and bernie sanders, how do they own multimillion dollars homes own government property? nancy pelosi's husband is a venture capitalist, invested in commercial real estate but bernie sanders family run numerous non-profits. the money is hard to track. little to no oversight. what do you say, joe? >> i say bernie sanders has more houses than i do, that's for sure. not bad for a socialist. you know who is 100% accurate on this whole situation? going to shock you here, elizabeth. rem alexandria ocasio-cortez, democrat in new york. she said it should be illegal to buy and sell stocks if you're a member of congress. she is exactly right. it would be like professional athletes gambling on their own sport for which they would actually help decide the outcome, right? pelosi for example, wealth increase from 41 million about 17% ago to more than 100 million in 2020. that is according to open secrets. close to 75% of pelosi's stock trading over last two years involved big tech companies, alpha