and sandtown by the numbers. a special series of reports about what life is like in the impoverished baltimore neighborhood where freddie gray grew up and was arrested. next on pbs newshour weekend. >> pbs newshour weekend is made possible by: corporate funding is provided by mutual of america-- designing customized individual and group retirement products. that's why we are your retirement company. additional support is provided by: and by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. from the tisch wnet studios in lincoln center in new york, hari sreenivasan. >> sreenivasan: good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight in baltimore where a throng of people, some chanting “take back the city" and calling for an end to the curfew, gathered peacefully today outside city hall. this, following the release on bail last night of the six baltimore police officers, who were arrested in connection with the death of freddie gray. the 25-year-old

it destroyed any chance of anything succeeding in sandtown. the mayor and others demanded that the bad guys be locked up. morgues filled. sandtown became a war zone. >> for you this is personal. >> it is very personal. >> one of them is the grand son of diane. >> he was incarcerated, drugs - not using, but selling them. he was found shot in the head. >> reporter: you still miss him? >> i do i do. >> reporter: that is why the death of freddie gray was so personal to so many. many fom lis here had -- families here had a freddie gray, and a dream. the explosion that followed was not about fixing sandtown it was the straw that broke the camel's back. >> i saw a lot of things as a child early. i knew what cocaine was, weed was, dope was. i seen needles, alcohol, all that stuff. i knew that. i knew what junkies was, it felt normal to me. >> so in sandtown there's no winners, losers just survivors. tiffany makes ends meet one stitch at a time quilts for friends, selling them online. tayvon is working towards a commercial driver's licence. they pray t

sandtown became a war zone. for you this is personal. >> it is very personal. >> reporter: one of them in the morgue was the grandson of diane. >> he end up incarcerated drugs - not using then selling them. he was found shot in the head. that's tough. >> reporter: you still miss him. >> i do i do. i do. [ chants ] >> reporter: that is why the death of freddie gray was so very personal to so many. many families had a freddie gray gray, and a dream. the explosion that followed was not about fixing sandtown it was the proverbial straw that broke a city's back. >> i saw a lot of things as a child early that i was not supposed to see. i knew a lot of things as a child. i knew what cocaine was, weed, dope. i seen needles, alcohol. just all that stuff. i knew what junkies were. i knew what it was. it felt normal to me. >> in sandtown there's no winners, losers just survivors. tiffany makes ends met one stitch at a time, quilts for friends, selling them on long. tayvon is working towards getting a driver's licence. they

so you can see where sandtown's investment begins and ends. where freddie gray lived was on the outskirts of the area that had been improved dramatically and had the strongest home ownership portion of all of sandtown winchester. and what didn't happen was there wasn't an economic driver that kept that redevelopment going past where the homeowners and were and past where the stability in sandtown winchester was. the employment didn't occur can. the healthcare systems we -- and i'm sorry i'm probably taking too long -- the healthcare systems we organized all of the various healthcare providers all the payment systems changed, very hard thing to do but we signed up every -- almost every kid this sandtown for the chips program, et cetera so there is more healthcare available than when we started. the schools, we took on two public had schools under an agreement and combined them into one from k through 6 to k through 8 and it went from one of the worst schools into the top half by all statistical person urs along the way. so that improvement in s

sandtown- winchester has a prison u connection. it has a large number of ex-offenders and we ran into one problem after -- they're an automatic exclude as you know, by maryland law. we had to go all the way back into the parole and prison system, et cetera, to try to find a job, and mentor on that very expensive, very long term it was one of our biggest issues, it remains a huge issue. getting it changed, which we attempted for many years, is very difficult. it is a soundbite for any politician. >> i would jump on two quick issues. on the crime, what i do want to say that there's another issue that's prevalent. i didn't know that much about it, you are made. the cook county president. she was an alderman in the city of chicago for 20 years. when she got there she looked at -- a third of their budget in jails. she looked at the data and it showed that, first, the vast majority of the offenses were nonviolent. what was more surprising was 80% or something like that of the people in jail had not been convicted. they were awaiting tria

about 50% of sandtown households earn less than $25,000 a year. only 6% of adults have college degrees. only about half of eighth graders can read proficiently. one of the biggest problems here is that with so few jobs available, selling drugs on the street has become a rite of passage for many young men. can i ask you how many of you have a criminal record? >> i do. >> all of us just about. >> all of us. >> if you keep living in sandtown, you're going to hustle. >> reporter: "hustle" meaning sell drugs. >> absolutely. >> it's not that you're looking at what they're doing as illegal. it's what you see as, okay, this person is making money. they-- they're feeding their family. >> reporter: but every member of this group is employed. they've overcome their pasts. now their mission is to convince others that they too can pull themselves up, even in sandtown. chip reid, cbs news, baltimore. >> pelley: turns out black unemployment has dropped in april, below double digits, for the first time in seven years. today's jobs report shows the economy began t

. >> sreenivasan: in the sandtown neighborhood of baltimore, a woman named marilyn on appleton street takes pride in the garden she's tending on her front porch. pride in the tiny corner of the city she's been able to clean up in the house that has been in her husband's family since 1959. but she is also scared. scared to give us her last name because of the troublemakers in sandtown, an element she suspects is behind the recent riots and looting. she fears retaliation from them for speaking her mind. >> we have drug dealers trying to come on our block down the corner, or whatever, we call the police, they do come, sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. they should have buried that man peacefully, like his family asked, what they did, i think they did because i think they just wanted to steal, they wanted to take. >> sreenivasan: the past two days have been stressful for marilyn, and her blood pressure has gone up, looters destroyed the cvs where she filled her prescriptions. >> i don't have my blood pressure medicine, i don't have my medicine, period. now i gotta find another cvs t

the explosion that followed wasn't about fixing sandtown.bial straw that broke a city's back. >> saw a lot of things as a child early that i wasn't supposed to see. i knew a lot of things at a child. my boy's age i knew what cocaine was we'd was needles alcohol. all that stuff. i knew what junk ice was. it felt normal to me. >> in sandtown, there are just survivors, tiffany makes ends meet one stitch at a time, quilts for friends selling them on line. tayvon is working toward getting a commercial driver's license. like so many who live here, they know there are no guarantees. it has been like that for decades. al jazeera baltimore. >> philadelphia is also dealing with its own racial past. this year marks 30 years since 1985 when police dropped a bomb on the headquarters of a black liberation group called move. >> we have revolutionaries, true revolutionaries. >> it was a radical group called move the leader, john africa, his followers adopted the same last name. it wasn't always clear what they attitude for but their opposition to racial opp

so you can see where sandtown's investment begins and ends. where freddie gray lived was on the outskirts of the area that had been improved dramatically and had the strongest home ownership portion of all of sandtown winchester. and what didn't happen was there wasn't an economic driver that kept that redevelopment going past where the homeowners and were and past where the stability in sandtown winchester was. the employment did not occur. the healthcare systems we -- and i'm sorry i'm probably taking too long -- the healthcare systems, we organized all of the various healthcare providers all the payment systems changed, very hard thing to do, but we signed up every -- almost every kid this sandtown for the chips program, et cetera, so there is more healthcare available than when we started. the schools, we took on two public schools under an agreement and combined them into one from k through 6 to k through 8 and it went from one of the worst schools into the top half by all statistical measures along the way. so that improvement is still t

as clashes broke out this time in her old sandtown neighborhood. >> i said to people, thank god i'm this age because hopefully i will never see this again. i didn't expect to see it twice in my lifetime but i definitely don't want to see it again. >> a charm city native, a highly educated community leader, a mother. you might be surprised at her response to the demonstrators on the streets. >> i'm proud of those kids. >> proud. it's not that helena hicks condones rioting or looting but over 50 years after her generation stood up for justice as more baltimore neighborhoods clear out what choices do they have gm. >> we keep saying it was not as bad as 1968. but you see if you don't do anything about the systemic problems eventually they're going to come back up to the surface and you've got a whole other generation, like i was the generation protesting in the '60s this is the young generation that's protesting there. >> a generation she says is just trying to be heard. the language political leaders use to describe them angers her. >> too many people have spent generations building up this

. >>> and cbs news reporter chip reed spent sometime in sandtown the neighborhood where freddie graylived. it's a place with many challenges. >> reporter: in sandstown the poverty stricken baltimore neighborhood where freddie gray lived members of the charitable group center for urban families walked the streets trying to help people find work. >> the job training program. >> reporter: despite monumental challenges joe jones the center's founder and ceo is determined to turn this neighborhood around. 50% of ac around american males between 20 and 30 are unemployed you can't have that number of people out of the labor market and expect that a community is going to thrive. >> reporter: over the years, there have been many efforts to save the town in the early 1990s, former president jimmy carter and presidential candidate bill clinton came when developers and the city were pouring 130 million dollars into urban renewal. the project largely failed because jobs didn't materialize. about 50% of the households earn less than 25,000 dollars a year. only 6% of that has college degrees half o

the "washington post" reported they spent $130 million on sandtown. no progress whatsoever.ion system they've -- third highest per-people spending 55% of kids can't in the fourth grade can't read at basic level. >> unbelievable. >> that's what happens when you throw money at problems. >> unbelievable. >> marc, thank you. >> thanks megyn. >>> breaking news. live pictures of a frightening scene over norman oklahoma. look at these pictures. very ominous. massive storms are rolling through. look at this. twisters have already caused damage in parts of kansas earlier tonight. this system is right now headed toward the town of moore, oklahoma where a deadly twister devastated the community just two years ago. we're watching this. we'll go back as warranted. >>> plus up next ben carson. just over 48 hours now into this campaign announcing right as an ugly new debate over free speech breaks out following an attempted terror attack that we discussed at the top of the shore. he's here live in his first tv interview since announcing his run for the presidency. don't miss dr. carson, ne

swaths of the city are disconnected from the life of the other baltimore and in that baltimore, sandtowninchester, where freddie gray is from is one of the poorest neighborhood really in the country. every socioeconomic indicator there is down. gwen: you've lived there for 30 years. you and i used to cover baltimore together. what you wrote in your piece this week was this was something that's that was going to happen. michael: because you had these two worlds that bumped up against each other onle on occasion. you had fights at the harbor. the drug scene in the ports community. and the police's role was to come in, clear everybody out. arrest people, not sort of be part of the community so you always had this tension and there was a lot of police interaction so you could just feel this coming. >> michael was this different from what we saw in ferguson or north charleston? is there something unique about this situation? michael: it was similar but different in the racial dynamic. baltimore has a police force that's half black and a lot of people who have sort of had this antipathy toward

. >> the prayer from the pews in baltimore's sandtown this sunday was to overcome a week of sometimesnt protests in this very fab hood. for the first time since tuesday, the city will not be under a 10 p.m. curfew. baltimore mayor stephanie laulings-blake says my goal has always been to not have a curfew in place a single day longer than necessary. i believe we reached that point today. prarishner ray kelly calls it progress. >> this seems like the start of a change that we have been fighting for for a lot of years in west baltimore. >> do you hope it lasts? >> i will make it last as long as i can. i'm not going to let the momentum. >> reporter: some national guards troops were seen packing up and moving out. >> we're going to get back to normal as quickly as we can. >> maryland governor larry hogan said at least 200 businesses were damaged. mondawmin mall looted on tuesday reopened today. >> happy yay. >> to the relieve of resident deeona beecher. >> i think the community is safe now. i think we can pov forward and be more productive. >> gray's death sparked to the just violence but

san town -- sandtown is the focus of national attention, the setting for the latest on a list of policeolence cases front page of "the new york times." bobbie rush congressmen of chicago, had this to say on the house floor on friday after the announcement about the indictment of the six baltimore police officers. here is constant rush, democrat of illinois. cognizant rus -- congressman rush: by her decision today just a few moments ago, she has done this nation an invaluable service. especially for young people. especially for the african-american and other minority youth. these young people have for decades now felt and yearned for justice as it relates to police misconduct, police fertility and yes police murder. this news standing for justice. is a standard that now transcends baltimore. transcends even the entire state of maryland. and transcends and -- reaches two other points all across this nation. ferguson, new york city, chicago, cleveland, other places all throughout this country. host: from the house floor friday after the indictments were announced in baltimore. and respondi

. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> reporter: and at the new song church in the heart of sandtown the troubled neighborhood wherey gray grew up, a sermon about what comes next. >> we need to see some long term solutions. because when the cameras are gone newspapers start reporting, the next event takes place in the next town, we'll still be here in sand town. >> louis wilson knows that soon, the national spotlight won'ting shining on his community. >> there will still be people struggling with addiction poverty, young african american men that feel hopeless, women trapped in poverty with too many kids or no being support for their kids.those problems will kids. those problems will still be here. >> where we go from here is really to engage the men who share the similar background do i. being. >> today is the first sunday after a difficult week for the city and your neighborhood. how do you feel, what comes next? >> oh man. >> that's a tougher question. >> for me what comes next is reconciliation. >> forp here we have more reasons to run. opportunities wrels but we are acknowledging there are limited opportunitie

we repeatedly visited penn and north, sandtown winchester and many other communities on both the east and west sides of the city. we worked from the baltimore city police headquarters. we visited injured officers at shock trauma. we had a meal with members of the national guard at the armory and with officers at the state police command center. we met with and thanked as many state troopers and allied police officers soldiers and firefighters as we possibly could. our entire team was working 16 to 20 hours a day in addition to managing managing we're literally making hundreds of decisions and managing the 4,000 people we brought with us. we also talked with business owners religious leaders commune community leaders in order to provide reassurances and to understand their immediate concerns. we touched every corner of the city we could reach and in doing so i saw things that i will never forget. we saw devastation and destruction, but we also saw incredible acts of kindness we saw neighbors helping neighbors. we saw a community that cares about each other. i'm extremely proud of our e

hicks saw, too as clashes broke out this time in her old sandtown neighborhood. >> i said to people, thank god i'm this age because hopefully i'll never see this again. >> nearly 50 years after her generation stood up for justice as more baltimore neighborhoods have emptied out and more poverty and hopelessness set in what choice, she asks, do these young people have? >> we keep painting over it, we keep saying it was not as bad as 1968. but you see if you don't learn anything about the systemic problems, eventually they're going to come back up to the surface. and you've got a whole other generation like i was a young generation protesting in the '60s this is the young generation that is protesting now. >> hicks says that baltimore is not a city without hope, but she warns failure to bring justice for freddie gray could plunge it into more chaos. >> let me tell you what i learned from 1968. after four days you're sitting on the powder in the keg. before you get to the seventh day all hell is going to break loose. history repeats itself when you don't sit down and look at the history

in sandtown, as it is called, if you look a certain way and you are pulled over and you do not abidey what they say, why are you in this part of town -- usually visiting a loved one. but because the place is drug infested, they feel as though you have some kind of involvement in being in that kind of circle right there. it is sad to say that these youth cannot go to a baltimore police and just have a general conversation with them or feel like they can be protected by them. charlie: you talking about black and white policeman? you have a black mayor and police chief. toya: i do not think it is racist towards black and white it is towards blue. charlie: cops. michael: i feel the same way. not all cops are bad not all caps are good. charlie: we have seen incidents around the country. why were you in the streets when your mother saw you? michael: i was down there to protest. a while back my friend was abused by the police and beaten , so i went down there to fight for them. charlie: it was an act of protest against the police because of what had happened to your friend. when did you fir

as clashes broke out in her old sandtown neighborhood. >> i said to people thank god i'm this age because hopefully i will never see this again. >> nearly 50 years after her generation stood up for justice as more baltimore neighborhoods have emptied out and more poverty and hopelessness set in, what choice she asks do these young people have? >> we keep painting over it. we keep saying, it wasn't as bad as 1968. but you see if you don't do anything about the systemic problems eventually they're going to come back up to the surface and you've got a whole other generation, like i was the generation protesting in the '60s, this is the young generation that's protesting now. >> hicks insists that baltimore is not a city without hope. but she warns that failure to bring justice for freddy gray can plunge it into more chaos. >> let me tell you what i learned in 1968. after four days you are sitting on top of a powder keg. if you don't resolve the problem in the first four days, before you get to the seventh day all hell's going to break loose. history will repeat itself, analyze it and say how

sandtown, having a massive renewal project from the ten years led by the mayor and a big developer in put well over $100 million into the neighborhood trying to fix it. we heard now it's a neighborhood with no grocery store and a neighborhood where half the kids on any given day the absentee rate in high school is 50%. so we've tried a lot of stuff. the efforts are not failures. they've aleveiateed a lot of suffering burks we can cushion poverty, we don't know how to take concentrated areas of poverty and lift them in any real way. >> i think it has gone undebated in the country. it was not debated. show me where it was brought up in any of the debates where i'm going to do something seriously about it. i do commend the efforts and i think what happens too often in this debate is one side said my goodness, if they would only be moral people and go to work every day and not drink or smoke everything would be okay and be devoted family people the moral solution. the other side says more money is the answer. i mean we've seen the deindustrialization hollowing out of american major cities

in this spiderweb where freddie gray is from over -- more people are locked up from sandtown than any community in the state of maryland. now, right there, that's a sad state. now, you have good people there. you have homeowners. you have people who have been there five six generations, okay? but the war on drugs is not doing anything. little kids just like freddie gray -- >> quentin, would you want to legalize heroin? >> no. >> you see what heroin does to people. >> no no. i never would like to legalize heroin. i'm talking about the war on drugs, the war on drugs is also a war on people. >> but i mean if somebody's in the neighborhood selling drugs to the kids in the neighborhood and adults in the neighborhood they're contributing to the demise aren't they? >> they sure is. but everybody in that neighborhood has rights. when you strip them people of their rights you make them very paranoid. >> yeah. >> okay? just like freddie. he ran this time. he came in my office let me explain something to you. he came in my office and said i want you to look at my charge. i said okay. i look at h

and again, in -- in sandtown, this neighborhood freddie gray lives in, in baltimore you know, the police don't have this stellar and sterling record with the community that they may lead you to believe. i mean from 2011 and to 2014 nearly $6 million paid to victims of brutality in baltimore. that number is startling. now if you don't focus on that and only focus on the destruction of property, the 200 number that was seen in your last hour, businesses destroyed then your understanding is going to be a little skewed as to why all of this is going on. >> all right. if only we could spend time walking in each other's shoes for a while, that might help. until that happens, todd johnson, thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> in a moment, how the inner city troubles in baltimore and other cities will be addressed in the presidential race. tell be a dominant issue during the campaign? (vo) maggie wasn't thrilled when ben and i got married. i knew it'd take some time. and her sensitive stomach didn't make things easier. it was hard to know why... the move...her food...? so we tried purina cat c

so the naacp has literally laid down the welcome ma in the sandtown neighborhood opening up a satellitee working with the community in terms of providing people with job seeking services and social services working with ex-offenders. the point being here we've got to demonstrate and increase engagement and trust. and if we fail to do that, the consequences are real. and they're real for not merely police officers but most significantly, most importantly the city itself. >> tom fuentes, what do they need to do to try to fix this? it does appear that one police officer speaking anonymously to miguel marquez as if there is some sort of deliberate slowdown by baltimore police. >> i think when commissioner betts tells you when one officer responding to a call is surrounding by 30 members of the community preventing them from doing their job that's obstruction by the community, the community that needs the officers to save their young men from getting gunned down on the street every day of the week. so this is a crisis that is being manufactured i think by the fact that the community is not s