, bob zoellick. >> she didn't work for sandy berger, did she?was part of sandy berger's generation. >> i don't think she's that old. >> i'm not an authority on herbicide okay grief. she worked at the hoover institution. the woman is a brilliant woman. >> when we were with nixon in '68, there was a point where he was way down. he was tied with humphrey, and you take the safe pick. >> is it safe to say that everybody on this panel is poo- pooing, except me, a possible candidacy? >> yes. >> as a running mate? >> not as a rung mate. she's phot got many great qualifications but not for this ticket. >> not for this particular. >> poo-pooing. >> okay who will be romney's vice presidential running mate? >> i would say pawlenty or portman. it's going to be about even and it will help him in ohio, and if pawlenty can deliver min so tea's a pretty good pick. >> i agree with that, and we're going to know in a couple of weeks because they are going to announce before it the convention. >> come on, give me your pick. >> pawlenty or portman. >> jindal. i think