and with sandy mccarthy's view, this is a manual that is important enough to include the endorsement basically the sharia law faculty at the center. but also with the islamic thought. and i believe from the early '80s. so the point is that if read via a - - ideology is radical because it supplant the constitution since the core tenets are antithetical. so to me that his radical if you want to blow up of privilege or not. here want to there is a lot of people that buy on to this to some degree or another. some percentage of them are jihadist. to create the save space and the forcible commands and the bellicose interpretation is something that is preached by a very influential scholars to have some religious tenets. but allowing it to cloaking itself. of a totalitarian political philosophy. new york you underestimate toehold that it has on a group of 126 billion people. it is your testimony we do lead to service to the muslim community when we lumpen the peaceful muslims the share our values so is that a fair understanding? >> it is too easy there is no urgency. the there is an urgency