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thank you for enlightening north macon about sanger seal. we drive up it every day and i do when i am there, and i grew up in that neighborhood and i never knew there was confederate for vacation on sanger seal until i was told by somebody who read your book. so thank you very much. >> thank you. if you want to see it, they would love that. >> he does talk about the slaves working on those fortifications. they also have to send slaves off to savannah to help with those fortifications there as well, and they come back and most of them are sick. so he does write about that. some curiosity that you might know or appreciate, i am told that the little family is mentioned often and that's back often in the book -- often in the book. his house is somewhat category is back -- behind the store. lewis was one of the original founding trustees of the university of the south. he was an episcopalian was in the, the young man? >> no, they are presbyterian. >> congratulations to them. but he was familiar with stephen elliott in the book, and stephen elliot
thank you for enlightening north macon about sanger seal. we drive up it every day and i do when i am there, and i grew up in that neighborhood and i never knew there was confederate for vacation on sanger seal until i was told by somebody who read your book. so thank you very much. >> thank you. if you want to see it, they would love that. >> he does talk about the slaves working on those fortifications. they also have to send slaves off to savannah to help with those...
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david sanger. would this. go in this. sheep it. all stole back in. that song so that. misled to. hold. a missile. launch abort a. bomb. on board with. certain. board. she. didn't seem. all. that. sad moment. car. the. sun. was shining. there's some. good news. on this. didn't see. you soon mom. told me. this. morning some. good news. scene scene thank you so. much. for. culture. hair. color. stylish. lifestyles are. the. third human. they are digital more years. for women for internet activists one mission the battle for freedom and dignity. against repression and filings they deploy the powers of social media. their messages are spreading like wildfire the social media critic. and thousands of others are coming home on. the streets they are women who are changing the moral reading. digital. stories from around twenty fifth on w. . our. place me. play. this is e w news line from but the cia concludes that the order to kill jamal khashoggi came a problem atop the us intelligence agency reportedly pins the decision journalist death on powerful saudi crown prince mohammad and been a
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i believe it is very important to us all to know who margaret sanger is, as well as many other forgotten and invisible women throughout the united states history. womener the names of many and a put them in a timeline format. the first timeline was an excel spreadsheet scotch taped together. 2003, il and i met in had about 300 women on my timeline. by the time i met charlotte, i had also collected the names and accomplishments of many historical women throughout u.s. history. with aney began in 1987 essay contest. my colleague attended a society of women engineers in kansas city and came back with the idea for sponsoring an essay contest for six graders throughout colorado and wyoming on great women in engineering and science. i said that is a wonderful idea. who are they? possibly, many of you in this room, certainly many of the notp that i to, who are highly educated and informed, i knew one historical woman in engineering and science. that was matter of marie. . curie.e we needed to start researching because one of the things i learned was in order to judge the essays, we had to be su
i believe it is very important to us all to know who margaret sanger is, as well as many other forgotten and invisible women throughout the united states history. womener the names of many and a put them in a timeline format. the first timeline was an excel spreadsheet scotch taped together. 2003, il and i met in had about 300 women on my timeline. by the time i met charlotte, i had also collected the names and accomplishments of many historical women throughout u.s. history. with aney began in...
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what happened next was that not one woman other than me, no one knew who margaret sanger was. not one woman. so who is margaret singer? she was an early advocate of a woman's right to control her own body. as early as 1916, she opened a birth control clinic and laid the foundations for planned parenthood. can you imagine doing that in 1916? there are about three things that are really important for women in 2008 to have the life that we have today. the first is the right to vote. the second is the right to own property and the third is the right to control our own bodies. i believe it is very important to us all to know who margaret sanger is, as well as many other forgotten and invisible women throughout the united states history. i gather the names of many women and a put them in a timeline format. the first timeline was an excel spreadsheet scotch taped together. 80-100 pages or more. when jill and i met in 2003, i had about 300 women on my timeline. jill: by the time i met charlotte, i had also collected the names and accomplishments of many historical women throughout u.s
what happened next was that not one woman other than me, no one knew who margaret sanger was. not one woman. so who is margaret singer? she was an early advocate of a woman's right to control her own body. as early as 1916, she opened a birth control clinic and laid the foundations for planned parenthood. can you imagine doing that in 1916? there are about three things that are really important for women in 2008 to have the life that we have today. the first is the right to vote. the second is...
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and, david sanger. he's a national security correspondent for the "new york times."nks to boyou. as the president said,, it's not illegal to try to build a hotel in russia, but my question to you david sanger, what do we know about overlaps between businessman donald trump's deals in russia and politician donald trump's policies about russia? >> well, lisa, that's the central question because, from the start of his campaign in 2015, he was taking an unusual position, a muosch softerion on russia than almost any of his republican competitors, and certai than the republican party had in the past. i went to see him with maggie haign, my colleague at the time, in march 2016 and we did the first sorof lengthy foreign policy interview, and when i asked about russia, the first thing he did v wasr into the question of why the u.s. was continuing sanctions on russia for its annexation of crimea. he argued crimeaom was far us, european countries didn't care about this as much as we did, whyre we doing this? well what do we now know?we ow know that same month march of 2016,ai h
and, david sanger. he's a national security correspondent for the "new york times."nks to boyou. as the president said,, it's not illegal to try to build a hotel in russia, but my question to you david sanger, what do we know about overlaps between businessman donald trump's deals in russia and politician donald trump's policies about russia? >> well, lisa, that's the central question because, from the start of his campaign in 2015, he was taking an unusual position, a muosch...
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david sanger writes for "the new york times." israel has had full diplomatic relationships with egypt and jordan but all of a sudden things are improving for the israelis with several other arab states. what's behind this? >> reporter: the main thing behind it is iran. the next few days you'll see the united states announce the next phase of the sanctions against iran meant to bring their oil revenues to zero. it won't succeed at that. but you're seeing the sort of big pincher effect that prime minister netanyahu and president trump have worked out to try to squeeze the iranians after the u.s. left the nuclear deal. iran has been the one issue that has unified the sunnis with the arab states. there's also a deep intelligent sharing going on between the israel intelligence agency and the intelligence agencies of the sunni states. the one thing that binds them together is their opposition to the iranian regime. and now their unification with the united states on the rejeks -- rejection of the nuclear deal. >> and the united emirate
david sanger writes for "the new york times." israel has had full diplomatic relationships with egypt and jordan but all of a sudden things are improving for the israelis with several other arab states. what's behind this? >> reporter: the main thing behind it is iran. the next few days you'll see the united states announce the next phase of the sanctions against iran meant to bring their oil revenues to zero. it won't succeed at that. but you're seeing the sort of big pincher...
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. >> dafbd sanger, security analyst, national security correspondent for "the new york times."for the french president to use those words yards from the u.s. president, to criticize nationalism days after the president called himself a nationalist, is there any way that the president could not take those words as directed at him? >> no, they were directed at him. if the president took it that way, he took it accurately. and it's why, you know, he always shows up at summits like this as if -- looking as if he's going to a high school reunion with classmates he didn't really like. right? so you saw this throughout the weekend. macron critique was two-fold. one, the use of the word nationalism and basically he made the argument that the bigger form of patriotism was to understand your nation's interest as interlinked with the interest of other nations as well. and in many ways that's what the entire weekend was about, right? if you're going to do a 100th anniversary of the end of the great war, as it was called, you want to spend your time thinking about the mistakes made that led
. >> dafbd sanger, security analyst, national security correspondent for "the new york times."for the french president to use those words yards from the u.s. president, to criticize nationalism days after the president called himself a nationalist, is there any way that the president could not take those words as directed at him? >> no, they were directed at him. if the president took it that way, he took it accurately. and it's why, you know, he always shows up at summits...
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. >> otra tragedia en sur del est escenario de sanger . >> disparó un pistolero y mató 12 personas ,ca] . >> ¿qué tal? sensación de silencio que se vive prácticamente el sonido del viento y árboles está el bar, 12 muertos y las autoridades este es el recuento . >> [música] . >> las imágenes hablan por sí solas sobrevivientes ayudan a otras víctimas, caras de pánico y dolor y la policía y el fbi en labor. >> es una escena horrible hay sangre por todas partes . >> pasó a las 11:20pm en el bar en pantalla, a 40 millas de los Ángeles en california cuando un sujeto llegó a dónde los asistentes eran estudiantes de college . >> al parecer llegó a la escena disparó a un guardia después entró y el resto de la gente del club . >> dicen que el pistolero lanzó varios dispositivos de humo y todo cuando disparó muchos se salvaron porque se escondieron en partes como el ático entre lagrimas dicen cómo salieron con vida . >> todo el mundo se tiró al piso no podíamos salir porque el tiroteo pasó , tomaron banquetas del bar y las lanzaron a la ventana para escapar nos hicimos los muertos . >> entre mu
. >> otra tragedia en sur del est escenario de sanger . >> disparó un pistolero y mató 12 personas ,ca] . >> ¿qué tal? sensación de silencio que se vive prácticamente el sonido del viento y árboles está el bar, 12 muertos y las autoridades este es el recuento . >> [música] . >> las imágenes hablan por sí solas sobrevivientes ayudan a otras víctimas, caras de pánico y dolor y la policía y el fbi en labor. >> es una escena horrible hay sangre por...
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david sanger, we'll leave it there for now. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> and we'll be right back. a moment of joy. a source of inspiration. an act of kindness. an old friend. a new beginning. some welcome relief... or a cause for celebration. ♪ what's inside? ♪ [laughter] possibilities. what we deliver by delivering. your insurance rates skyrocket you could fix it with a pen. how about using that pen to sign up for new insurance instead? for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. switch and you could save $782 on home and auto insurance. call for a free quote today. liberty mutual insurance. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ billions of problems. dry mouth? parched mouth? cotton mouth? there's a therabreath for you. therabreath oral rinse and lozenges. help relieve dry mouth using natural enzymes to soothe and moisturize. so you can... breathe easy, there's therabreath at walmart. >>> welcome back. we're following breaking news out of florida. we'r
david sanger, we'll leave it there for now. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> and we'll be right back. a moment of joy. a source of inspiration. an act of kindness. an old friend. a new beginning. some welcome relief... or a cause for celebration. ♪ what's inside? ♪ [laughter] possibilities. what we deliver by delivering. your insurance rates skyrocket you could fix it with a pen. how about using that pen to sign up for new insurance instead? for drivers with accident...
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so david sanger, to you. for our viewers, if you have not read david's piece in "the new york times," don't read it during this segment, but pick it up right after because it's fascinating. this is about an in depth conversation you had with the president back in march of 2016, focused on foreign policy. and he made a lengthy case to you about why he, you know, was more supportive of giving the russians more relief when it comes to the annexation of crimea, the aggression against ukraine. let me read the president to you in 2016. quote, it didn't seem to me like anyone else cared other than us. he went on to say, the least effected by what happens with ukraine is us because we're the farthest away. explain the significance of what he told you then now given the last 24 hours. >> well, poppy, the interview seemed remarkable to us even then, before we know about the degree to which the president's team was still trying to negotiate a building deal in moscow. now when you go back and look at it, think about the
so david sanger, to you. for our viewers, if you have not read david's piece in "the new york times," don't read it during this segment, but pick it up right after because it's fascinating. this is about an in depth conversation you had with the president back in march of 2016, focused on foreign policy. and he made a lengthy case to you about why he, you know, was more supportive of giving the russians more relief when it comes to the annexation of crimea, the aggression against...
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joining me now, cnn analyst david sanger for the "new york times." thanks for being with us.eting still happens between president trump and president putin? >> oh, it's possible. from a diplomatic viewpoint, john, you might make the thar argument it should happen. look what happened in the world. russians moved in on ukraine. have their crew members. a message needs to be sent in the russians in clear terms that the united states and the rest of the west is not going to tolerate this kind of activity. and if the president will deliver that, probably has to deliver it in person, and also has to meet with the other european nations most concerned about russian interference, russian military activity and make a similar case. that's what makes it all the stranger here, because, of course, the reason the president appears not to be meeting with him is, no the as punishment for what they're doing in ukraine. you talk to adversaries about what bothers you. it's because of the optics of him meeting vladimir putin in the midst of these revelations about a continuing real estate deal g
joining me now, cnn analyst david sanger for the "new york times." thanks for being with us.eting still happens between president trump and president putin? >> oh, it's possible. from a diplomatic viewpoint, john, you might make the thar argument it should happen. look what happened in the world. russians moved in on ukraine. have their crew members. a message needs to be sent in the russians in clear terms that the united states and the rest of the west is not going to tolerate...
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more importantly they were spotted her musicianship quite a lot of times musicians calm a whole sanger's as as as riot all the the extra model s. are still predominate with with with outlaw. she was as good or better than the run of the mill of. always on the road most of the year singing was all she wanted to do. her life. the stages of the world in an audience were all she needed. people clamored to hear her voice and she never disappointed. on her travels or look for its journaled commanded tremendous respect as a black singer. the greatest great. home in the u.s. the struggle against racial segregation and oppression in the one nine hundred sixty s. was marked by escalating violence. as the civil rights movement gained momentum under the leadership of martin luther king jr the queen of jenna's to see more confident and more resolute before. now. oh yeah but. school teachers just let the spirit flow into them then that's a person in there yes they have the spirit takes over. really. grace is going to put a few quotes in from the american pop star. how central refusing the interview. a
more importantly they were spotted her musicianship quite a lot of times musicians calm a whole sanger's as as as riot all the the extra model s. are still predominate with with with outlaw. she was as good or better than the run of the mill of. always on the road most of the year singing was all she wanted to do. her life. the stages of the world in an audience were all she needed. people clamored to hear her voice and she never disappointed. on her travels or look for its journaled commanded...
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could have gotten out of control and what this is based on is interviews that i did and also david sangerf the new york times with tom johnson who was l bj's very close assistant to took the notes was in the room and saw johnson's display of temper when he thought there was this pressure coming on him for vietnam to go nuclear. thanks very much for the question, yes, ma'am. >> tom johnson-- >> yes, ma'am. >> thank you. >> rob, please, let's give some other people-- >> so i'm curious because we've talked a lot about modern wars, but how did our first president who had to wage the first-- the first major war of our country, how did he stack up and where did-- >> i open the book with james madison. >> right. >> and madison, the scene i open it with is that madison is running through the northern-- the dark forest of northern virginia in the rain fleeing washington because the british wanted to hang him. >> right. they were burning the capital, they were burning the white house and dolly madison was running through the same forest and they were looking for each other and madison keeps getting
could have gotten out of control and what this is based on is interviews that i did and also david sangerf the new york times with tom johnson who was l bj's very close assistant to took the notes was in the room and saw johnson's display of temper when he thought there was this pressure coming on him for vietnam to go nuclear. thanks very much for the question, yes, ma'am. >> tom johnson-- >> yes, ma'am. >> thank you. >> rob, please, let's give some other people--...
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with me now, david sanger with "the new york times." this suggests a great deception.me what you've learned. >> the big question here, brooke, is whether the deception is the north koreans adding on to their existing facilities, all of which were undeclared, while dismantling one or two, which president trump has advertised, or whether what the u.s. is trackingering that's going on in north korea so carefully is deceiving itself. you've heard president trump talk arch about how they're dismantling this or that. he's not talked about the dismantling up to 16 or more bases, including one that seems to be designed for intercontinental ballistic missiles, the kind that can reach the united states and how they're being improved. it seems if you're poor like north korea, you wouldn't spend money when you plan to dismantle them in few months. >> right. there was a world watch. how would you, based upon what you know, characterize where the u.s. and north korea relations are right now. square one? >> no. the relationship between president trump and kim jong-un is somewhat bett
with me now, david sanger with "the new york times." this suggests a great deception.me what you've learned. >> the big question here, brooke, is whether the deception is the north koreans adding on to their existing facilities, all of which were undeclared, while dismantling one or two, which president trump has advertised, or whether what the u.s. is trackingering that's going on in north korea so carefully is deceiving itself. you've heard president trump talk arch about how...
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let's discuss with the cnn global affairs analyst where jamal khashoggi also worked and david sanger.unch of things to run through here, david. but first let's fact check the president on this idea that the cia has not made a definitive assessment here. the fact is this was a high confidence assessment from the cia on the crown prince's involvement here, which is as definitive as intelligence reports get, is it not? >> i think what the president wants here, jim, is a sort of in the room hearing him issue the order. that happens on tv. it rarely happens in the world of intelligence. they have got to assemble the best case they've got and then assign a confidence level to it. but the concept that a hit team of 15 saudis, including saudi military officials, could be sent over and that they were doing this freelancing in an authoritarian state, you didn't need the cia to tell you that. let's go back to your earlier point about the false choice the president is setting up. you mentioned egypt. it is an interesting case because president obama helped push out the leader at the time while ho
let's discuss with the cnn global affairs analyst where jamal khashoggi also worked and david sanger.unch of things to run through here, david. but first let's fact check the president on this idea that the cia has not made a definitive assessment here. the fact is this was a high confidence assessment from the cia on the crown prince's involvement here, which is as definitive as intelligence reports get, is it not? >> i think what the president wants here, jim, is a sort of in the room...
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this is from david sanger in "the new york times." while some say they believe president vladimir putin of russia is sitting out this election, the scrutiny is intense, the argument goes, and 470 house and senate races make it just too hard for the russians to figure out their interests, much less manipulate the outcome. still, others find the quiet deeply disturbing, perhaps a sign of a plan to make a last minute effort to convince voters that their ballots might not be counted or counted correctly. jeremy? >> i think when the full tally of this election season is rendered, we're going to see if the russians are very active. they've probably been very active on social media. they paid absolutely no price for doing so the last go around. we don't know yet the extent to which they have been able to somehow get into the election systems or somehow play some other role with their active measures, their covert action in our election season. that is going to be a big job for the u.s. intelligence community the following months. >> our than
this is from david sanger in "the new york times." while some say they believe president vladimir putin of russia is sitting out this election, the scrutiny is intense, the argument goes, and 470 house and senate races make it just too hard for the russians to figure out their interests, much less manipulate the outcome. still, others find the quiet deeply disturbing, perhaps a sign of a plan to make a last minute effort to convince voters that their ballots might not be counted or...
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david sanger reports on the eerie calm from the nation that sowed unprecedented discord the last timee went to the polls. while some say they believe vladimir putin is sitting out this election, the scrutiny is intense. the argument goes. and 470 house and senate races make it just too hard for the russians to figure out their interests, much less manipulate the outcome. still others find the quiet deeply disturbing, perhaps a sign of a plan to make a last-minute effort to convince voters that their ballots might not be counted or counted correctly. jeremy bash, former chief of staff at the cia and pentagon, now an msnbc analyst. i want your thoughts on the report. first, why would the russians have to sort of knock themselves out? donald trump seems to have, one, ticked off most items on vladimir putin's to-do list. he's publicly so pro russia, so pro-putin and seems to be doing all the work of sowing discord all by himself. that was the work the russians did using our social media technologies. donald trump seems to do that from the podium on the campaign trail himself. >> color me
david sanger reports on the eerie calm from the nation that sowed unprecedented discord the last timee went to the polls. while some say they believe vladimir putin is sitting out this election, the scrutiny is intense. the argument goes. and 470 house and senate races make it just too hard for the russians to figure out their interests, much less manipulate the outcome. still others find the quiet deeply disturbing, perhaps a sign of a plan to make a last-minute effort to convince voters that...
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. >> david sanger wrote an article next which shined a spotlight on the fact that they are building andll operating secret nifl sites throughout the country of all kinds of ranges including missiles that may be able to carry nuclear war heads. this does not appear to be the denuclearization that the united states wants. >> yeah, i agree. i mean, we knew these existed, now we're starting to get them located. it's getting to be time where i think we have to -- we run out of patience with north korea. i was fine with the president kind of doing this, i guess, different way of diplomacy because we don't want war in korea. anything we can do, but if it gets to what it's looking like now, kim jong-un is just buying time, china is violating the sanctions, so is russia and we're going back to status quo while they run towards nuclear weapons, we need to be finding ourselves taking a tougher position. nobody wants war with korea, but if you're not willing to have a military option on the table, diplomacy against an adversary will not and rarely ever works. so i think if it's that time we need to
. >> david sanger wrote an article next which shined a spotlight on the fact that they are building andll operating secret nifl sites throughout the country of all kinds of ranges including missiles that may be able to carry nuclear war heads. this does not appear to be the denuclearization that the united states wants. >> yeah, i agree. i mean, we knew these existed, now we're starting to get them located. it's getting to be time where i think we have to -- we run out of patience...
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david sanger of the manner -- "new york times" if it's up to him estonia is a nato partner. i don't need to talk about the trump foreign-policy. these parties do you advise their year they'll have some sinister murky connection to russian power. your italian friends and i'm not putting this on you. know you were the uniform but i know how you having worn the uniform can say that these people who have these sinister connections and no someone else does not have the interest of your country, my country and he is calling for all of these populist parties. [applause] e i want to return to russia in the second but my daughter when she had her last command comanche was at west point where she's on the staff. think she had 15 noncommissioned officers all of them african-american or hispanic. i think something like 40% of the army today is made up of african-americans alone. donald trump understands that in the deplorables understand that. that's why hispanic and black unemployment is so low. one of folks as we have in the populist movement is to take 25% of bernie sanders movement
david sanger of the manner -- "new york times" if it's up to him estonia is a nato partner. i don't need to talk about the trump foreign-policy. these parties do you advise their year they'll have some sinister murky connection to russian power. your italian friends and i'm not putting this on you. know you were the uniform but i know how you having worn the uniform can say that these people who have these sinister connections and no someone else does not have the interest of your...
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david sanger covered a lot of it in "the new york times" the following day because rouhani agreed to robin's rather persistent push to be on the record. but rouhani, at the beginning, talked about how there was no roadblock that couldn't be -- let's see. when things get really bad is when the experts start talking. and that i found intriguing because it was different from what he said about he couldn't talk to trump until they went back to where the u.s. had diverged from the path this which they were walking. but he left the door open for expert-level discussions, which i thought was interesting. >> so before we open up for questions, i just want to bring up one more topic on the idea of proxy wars and, of course, that's yemen. i'm going to ask it in a very broad sense. we'll start with you, jeff, since you've had the longest time to think about your answers so far. a very broad question here. you know, secretary mattis, secretary pompeo have just said they think that hostilities need to end in yemen. do you believe that the u.s. has the ability to pressure saudi arabia and uae into
david sanger covered a lot of it in "the new york times" the following day because rouhani agreed to robin's rather persistent push to be on the record. but rouhani, at the beginning, talked about how there was no roadblock that couldn't be -- let's see. when things get really bad is when the experts start talking. and that i found intriguing because it was different from what he said about he couldn't talk to trump until they went back to where the u.s. had diverged from the path...
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david sanger covered a lot of it in "the new york times" article the following day because he agreed to robin's push for being on the record. rowhani -- at the beginning he talked about how there was what no roadblock that couldn't be superseded. there was -- when things get really bad is when the experts start talking. that i found intriguing. it was different from what he said about how he couldn't talk to trump or they couldn't talk to trump until they went back to where the u.s. had diverged from the path in which they were walking. he left the door open for expert-level discussions and i thought that was interesting. >> before we open it up for questions i want to bring up one more topic on the idea of proxy wars and that's yemen and i will ask it in a broad sense and start with you, jeff, since you've had the longest time to think about your answer so far. a very broad question here, you know, secretary mattis, secretary pompeo have just said that they think that hostilities need to end in yemen. do you believe that the u.s. has the ability to pressure saudi arabia and uae into
david sanger covered a lot of it in "the new york times" article the following day because he agreed to robin's push for being on the record. rowhani -- at the beginning he talked about how there was what no roadblock that couldn't be superseded. there was -- when things get really bad is when the experts start talking. that i found intriguing. it was different from what he said about how he couldn't talk to trump or they couldn't talk to trump until they went back to where the u.s....