now the criticism of sanger has always been she medicalized birth control. and so now i would like to turn the tables and ask you, cristina, if you think the fact the birth control movement as it emerged from margaret sanger's work and as it included doctors, has been a good or bad thing? shouldn't we be able to go to the local pharmacy without a prescription and by a pill? we have that option with emergency contraception. but having read your book i know she didn't have a choice. >> for sure. >> she didn't have our choice. she worked with in what she had. you know, pregnancy and prevention of pregnancy is a medical, a primary care event. i think there are also the arguments that if we did make it over-the-counter, it would be less affordable for many women who don't have health insurance. so right now we see the same battles she fought with, trying to get federal funding for contraception. what you were saying before about, you know -- it is amazing to hear what is happening on the national stage with discussions about family planning and birth control. santorum,

i would criticize sanger not so much for -- what is this, rancid butter? but for lysol. but that was the spermicide of the day. these people are working in a of spermicides, do diaphragmsary's i.e. for years until sanger figures because she is in touch with endocrinologists that hormonal contraception is a possibility and she deserves i think more forit than she's gotten this support of gregory pincus who after all is a defrocked harvard biologist who had moved his lab out to oyster. -- wester. worchester. >> i wondered your comment on the new york times science section, they are blaming the pill for prostate cancer. >> i think you can talk more about -- the pill has been blamed and correctly at the beginning, for the possibility of blood clots. at the beginning there was too much estrogen in the pill. so that diminished. then after hearings in washington there is talk that the pill does this, it does that. and one of the issues is i don't there are enough randomized studies to be able to prove some of the points that are made about the pill. the pill does good things. i

again and those a city by example but they don't. 80 percent of ants relation stay in the city in sanger so it's a way to stay as you say there is always a social relation but they don't and died everything everywhere they don't. travel for no way actually we use so much plane so much but which we do so much pollution for nothing just for early days or. just to keep. drew to find a little place where we are quite and there is no mystery of so much troubling with john adams family life inside would have a family life with little room we don't need to be 810-0000 people to ear at the same time the same person and musician are all to see a politician we don't have to be some rich people just find a way to come back to family and perhaps to tribes in sydney to try to make the international is that where you're saying basically travelling and socializing and connecting we're still global well is about is going to become a luxury is that what you're saying and we have to go back yes they the most basic things are staying with family that they're one of those who don't have family. yes i think we

so they need a strategy, global strategy. i don't hear many governments talking about what that should look like. >> all right. david sanger, thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> great to be with you. >>> all right the struggles that the meat processing plants are facing as they try to combat coronavirus cases among employees. a closer look how quickly the cases can spread. next. it neutralizes bacteria for a healthier mouth than even the leading multi-benefit toothpaste. crest. is now more important than ever. at sprint, we understand saving money for your family that's why we're offering our best unlimited deal. switch and get four lines of unlimited for just $100 a month. that's right - four lines, for $100 bucks! if that's not enough, we're throwing in four samsung galaxy phones... on us. and now, sprint customers enjoy expanded roaming access on the t-mobile network. shop from the comfort of your home at sprint.com or come see us in our stores. for people with hearing loss, visit sprintrelay.com. unlike ordinary wmemory supplementsr? neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performan

so you start to see family planning tools come into effect, thanks in part to margaret sanger, and womenstart cutting their hair. look at her. i think this woman's 25. she's actually a dancer, and the shot was done in 1925. so she's got short hair. women didn't cut their hair before the 1920s. so just remarkable. and of course, she's showing how all the young kids are all partying today. you keep your flask in your garter. everyone still does that today, right? so, yeah. so, women started getting in on the game as well. so it became kind of fun to break the law, you know? it's like, ooh, this is glamorous! we're breaking the law! you're like, really, breaking the law's glamorous? but yeah, we became a nation full of scofflaws during this era. just remarkable. now, why did the country turn against prohibition? well, we had a couple things that happened. certainly, everyone saw all the organized crime that was going on, and especially as the 1920s progressed, you saw in cities like chicago, new york, and what not, some more people were getting killed over gangland violence, over who was go