here is sanjay bhandari, the chair of kick it out, thank you forjoining us here on sportsday. really obvious question i guess come in that if you spend your entire time looking at stopping this sort of thing happening. you had a meeting on monday, there was a big meeting on monday, there was a big meeting with the government on monday come and get these stories still keep coming up. racism in football is still there. the reality is is is a complex _ football is still there. the reality is is is a complex problem. - football is still there. the reality is is is a complex problem. it. football is still there. the reality is is is a complex problem. it is| football is still there. the reality| is is is a complex problem. it is a societal problem. there are just simple solutions unfortunately. even what appeared to be simple solutions have a little bit of complexity to them. so that is the reason why we keep coming back. it feels like groundhog day and it is awful. but we keep coming back. that is what we have to work with the organisations like facebook and twitter, but we also h

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