sanjay gupta back with some of the answers, and, sanjay, today the questions are pertinent.y have to do with where we are as the discussions about reopening begin here. this question comes from victoria in washington, d.c. she asks in reopening the economy, how can temperature checks be touted as a screening measure for covid-19 if people can be asymptomatic? >> yeah, great question. we're all learning as we go along, typically these type of screenings have been useful for other types of potential outbreaks and epidemics. but you're right, you know, we are now have plenty of evidence that people who are asymptomatic can harbor the virus in their bodies and spread it and people who are presymptomatic. so i think that the screening may still be a tool but i think this makes the case as you talked about all morning that testing, actual testing for the presence of the virus is the key. without it, nothing else works. screening is really not going to be effective because of what we're learning about how this illness plays out. >> sanjay, on that topic, another testing question, f

sanjay gupta. and cnn political analyst maggie haberman, white house correspondent for "the new york times." sanjay, i want to start with the public health aspect of this. but i do want to point out one marker that was just put down and it does have public health implications. alisyn asked the governor what if the president ordered the reopening of businesses or easing of restrictions and you weren't ready and governor cuomo flat out said i wouldn't do it. let's play that one more time. that's a significant moment. >> if he ordered me to reopen in a way that would endanger the public health of the people of my state, i wouldn't do it. >> you know, that sets up a potential complicated situation and i just don't know that it is in the benefit of public health. >> i think it is a pretty, you know, it is a pretty simple metric from a public health standpoint. we're starting to get real data from other places around the world, we know throughout history what happens if you sort of open things up too quic

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sanjay gupta and dr. bedinger. sanjay, i want to start with you on the 58,000 deaths and the fact there were 2,000 deaths, new deaths reported just yesterday. we talked about the fact that the death rate is no longer growing exponentially. i know that's a good thing. but to have the daily deaths at this settled level above a thousand, some days over 2,000, what does this tell you? >> well, you know, i think that there is -- there is some concern here that, you know, we thought that -- a lot of people thought you have a peak to a curve, that's how some people were envisioning it. instead it has come up to this level and plateauing at this point. you know. as we talked about many times, you're looking at these tragic deaths, you are seeing a sort of reflection of a picture from two to three weeks ago. so if things improved after two to three weeks ago between then and now, hopefully we'll start to see some, you know, more significant death decreases and a trend of that, if things don't improve, in terms of staying at

sanjay gupta. sanjay, let's talk about the fact that these experts who have these projections of what the death toll and the infection rate will be, they have again revised the death toll, this time up, to 74,000 by august. partly, they say, this is because states are relaxing social distancing guidelines; is that right? in other words, are the governors making decisions that will theoretically lead to more deaths? >> i think that that's feeding into this for certain. going up, you know, as high as it has, you know, keep in mind, jake, we've been talking about this particular model for some time. about a month ago, i think almost exactly a month ago, the toll was around -- the projection, i should say, for these tragic deaths, around 90,000 people. and then i think you and i both saw it go down to 60, 68,000 people. and i think at that point the point was that the stay-at-home orders were having an impact. we were starting to see that impact. and now as they start to get revised upwards i think ther

sanjay gupta. sanjay, great to have you here this morning. we all heard governor andrew kwoem q cuomo saying the number of hospitalizations down, daily intubations down, we saw the death rates -- the numbers in new york, connecticut and new jersey showing them flat over a few day period. that's not very long, we want to see more, but what does this all show you, sanjay? >> well, you know it is definitely encouraging. this is the direction you want to see things going. a couple of points, you know, whenever you look at these models, they're always wrong, but some are useful, as we talked about last hour. you know, think there is two things. one, you're seeing a lag in the picture because, you know, people get tested, several days, maybe even ten, 12 days after they become exposed particularly and then there is some time after that before -- if they're going to go to the hospital, they will go to the hospital and then after that, sadly, if they are going to die, there is time that passes in between. w

sanjay gupta and erika hill but also "sesame street." erika and sanjay and big bird, 9:00 a.m. join them. "ac-360" begins right now. >>> states beginning to reopen despite doctors and scientists warning them not to. death toll passed 59,000 in this country, would have been a good day to ask questions to the top is scientists and to our leaders, might expect on momentous day like this. that is not what happened this evening at coronavirus task force briefing. were not allowed to ask questions to dr. fauci and dr. birx, who were not there because president of the united states was afraid to take questions today during the briefing. he took questions earlier today and lied in such an obvious and blatant way he knew he would be called on it this evening so he cut and ran. president of the united states did not answer a single question and dr. s fauci and birx were not there. few prepared remarks, handed over and they all left. stunning in life and lives of this administration, dangerous and disturbing debacle of the president's own making. began last night, musing out loud to dr. d

sanjay gupta, cnn chief medical correspondent and dr. ashish jha, director of harvard global health study. sanjay, what struck you in what he told us this morning? >> well, i think there is a lot of discussion about testing, first of all, good to see him on the air. he couldn't join us at the town hall last night, so nice you could don't view with him. the testing is a big topic obvious obviously. he was quite optimistic about this antibody testing. there is obviously a lot of value in the antibody testing. there has been a concern that in a rush to get the tests out there, the fda, you know, sort of changed their standards a bit to make it easier and, you know, frankly there was some bad tests that came out there, tests that could not be validated. what you heard dr. fauci say to you today, alisyn, i think within a week or so they would have several different tests that have been validated, making it much more widely available. that would be a good thing for the reasons you mentioned. one is that i think the average person would like to

sanjay gupta. 25% to 50% of people are spreading asy asymp matically. you wear your mask to protect me. i wear my mask to protect you. >> while the white house recommends we wears face masks in public, some states around the country have started making that mandatory. >> i signed an executive order which will require the wearing of a masks or face coverings when inside any retail establishments. >> many are left wondering which mask offers the best protection. now whr now, when we talk about-face coverings, there are the surgical masks i wear in the hospital to protect patients from my own germs and avoid any splashes. then there are the n95 respirator masks that must be fit tested in order to protect health care workers during procedures. it's the only one of these masks that prevents most very small particles from getting in when used properly. we need to keep those masks in their hands. then there are the disposable cloth masks which you can buy in a store and online. they are made for surgery o

sanjay gupta, our chief medical correspondent. sanjay's been doing a lot of research on this. thank you. including the high risk of african-americans that they're facing in this crisis. he's going to bring us that next hour. make sure you join dr. sanjay gupta and anderson for another town hall. this time with a special guest, magic johnson. "coronavirus: facts and fears," live thursday night, 8:00 p.m. eastern. we'll see sanjay next hour. >>> the navy hospital docked in new york is officially taking coronavirus patients. we're going to get an update live on board. you doing okay? yeah. this moving thing never gets any easier. well, xfinity makes moving super easy. i can transfer my internet and tv service in about a minute. wow, that is easy. almost as easy as having those guys help you move. we are those guys. that's you? the truck adds 10 pounds. in the arms. -okay... transfer your service online in a few easy steps. now that's simple, easy, awesome. transfer your service in minutes, making moving with xfinity a breeze. visit xfinity.com/moving today. >>> acting secretary o

sanjay gupta. sanjay, before we get to the numbers in terms of what has -- i guess it is actually the same thing, the fact that the university of washington has updated their projection for death to 74,000 by the first week of august and the fact that states are reopening, and the fact that there is this new poll that shows how many americans are not yet comfortable with going out in public, where does that leave us all this morning? >> yeah. well, i think the best news was that last poll, which i had not seen that data before showing how many people are, you know, willing to abide by the stay at home orders even as the states reopen. i'm thinking it is not restrictive enough. it is interesting data to give an idea of how much we have changed in this country over the last several months. the model which we have been following for several months now is just a model. i always want to make that point, because we said this before on the show, all models are wrong, some are useful, this is one that i put

sanjay gupta.anjay, a team at the harvard school of public health is now saying we all could be forced to keep up with these social distancing measures until 2022. what's behind their analysis, their prediction? >> well, this was, you know, one of the trajectories that these authors proposed was possible, this idea that we would have at least intermittent distancing for some time to come, because the virus is still out there, is sort of their point, it's still circulating. people are still vulnerable in the cooler months of the fall and winter, it may come back. that's what's prompting it. there's a lot of things that influence this, wolf. people who become infected or are exposed to the virus, people who may not even have had symptoms, they may have immunity, that would change the trajectory. if a vaccine comes out, we keep hearing a year, year and a half, that would obviously be next year sometime, that would be a big factor that would reduce that. the virus is here to say, that's what the author

sanjay gupta now. and also dr. rochelle wolinski from mass general hospital in boston. sanjay, first, i want your reaction to what we just heard, the story of that young woman who worked at a grocery store, what her family is going through, it is a reminder that the front lines here aren't always necessarily in an ambulance or in a hospital. >> right, john. and, you know, we see these numbers on the screen now, we're going to do this modeling sort of segment and it is really hard to talk about things in such generalities. you hear these stories from people like leilani's family and, you know, i -- we did this segment yesterday about the disproportionate impact on certain segments of the population to your point, john. front line workers who are making the country run right now, you know, whether it be in grocery stores or pharmacies or food delivery or whatever it may be, you know. it is -- they're putting themselves at risk. it is just the case. and, you know, we hear lots of different stories, but it is hard, i guess, to talk about these general models and general numb

sanjay gupta, dr. marrazzo, we lost your ifb sometimes there, we really appreciate it. >> my pleasure, thank you, stay well. >>> the key model in the united states now projects when some states will safely reopen. a key researcher who is part of that modeling joins us next. the key model that the white house has been using predicts a slightly lower death toll for coronavirus in the united states. it's projecting dates when certain states could perhaps ease those stay-at-home restrictions. joining us is professor ali mokhdad. great to see you here. you identified four states that could you think open first. so even by may 4th. i believe those are hawaii, montana, vermont and west virgin virginia. how do you know that those states could be safe enough to reopen without seeing a spike in cases? >> good morning. no, what we are reporting say level that a state can comfortably move to a containment stage, we predict one case per million and we assume they have the capacity and workforce in public health to

sanjay gupta back to answer some of your questions and if you stick around, we have a very special treattion comes from amundo in san francisco, who says we had coronaviruses in the past, like sars and mers, how is covid-19 different from the other coronaviruses and why didn't we have to take such drastic measures such as lockdowns for sars and mers? >> yeah, there have been several coronaviruses in the past. i think there has been seven. sars and mers were the ones most people remember. there is a couple of things to keep in mind. talking about a new coronavirus, scientists look at the coronavirus and see how is it going to behave. there is two primary things they're looking at. how easily does it spread, that's a big one, and, two, how lethal is it? with sars, you may not remember, but it was -- it had a fatality rate of 10%. so, you know, 10% of people who contracted the infection died. but only 8,000 people around the world, around the entire world contracted the infection. around 800 people died. with mers, the fatality rate was actually closer to 35%. but it wasn't at all very cont

sanjay gupta. sanjay, this is crappy news, we all want this to work. >> no doubt, we're all looking for a therapy and hydroxychloroquine has been getting a lot of attention. this is a study of some 368 patients, still a small study, jake. we're going to get larger data studies, so we have to take all these studies with a grain of salt. this one was not peer-reviewed, it was not randomized. nevertheless, exactly what you said, jake, the patients who in this study got hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, that's the z-pack, the antibiotic, did worse. they had a 22% death rate as compared to patients who didn't get those medications who had an 11.4% death rate. so it doesn't look very promising, you know? this is another study among a drumbeat of studies now, again, all of them pretty small, we're still waiting for the larger studies, but if you look at france, you look at brazil, you look at sweden, you're hearing similar things. in france they said they found a dose that was too toxic, it was actuall

sanjay gupta, marriage counselor, mask maker, hairstylist.ob description as we do every day. this comes from carl in stillwater, oklahoma. why can't we suspend privacy rules to allow local media to report the names of people who tested positive for the coronavirus? people want to know, you know, who in their neighborhood has it. >> this is a strange time we're living in, right, to even ask the question. because there is obviously privacy concerns as carl sort of notes in the question. i don't know, you know. the question is what else -- what other information might you release as part of that, you know, does seem like a significant invasion of privacy. and unfortunately we have a history of then using those -- that sort of information to perhaps discriminate against people, for their jobs, for their insurance, whatever it might be. the flip side of that may be a possibility, which is not so much saying who is infected, but who may be immunized. people have talked about the idea of immunity certificates, i don't know that we're there in this c

sanjay gupta and what i've learned in the last 72 hours. good to have you, doc. >> hey, chris. you look better. glad to see that. >> so, the numbers. did you want to say something, sanjay? >> i want to ask if you felt better as well. >> i feel better than i deserve. and i now know that i can't just take it from this thing. when the fever spikes, you want to curl up in a ball and stay there for the next six or seven hours and you can't. you've got to bundle up your clothes and drown yourself in fluids and take tylenol. you've got to force yourself to breathe, force yourself off your as, walk around. it hurts. everything in your body is telling you not to do it. it's lying to you. and i know that now and the more i do, the more i push myself to do, the better i'm getting. so, i'm going to take faith in that for now. i'm not through it but that's good. i'll get back to the collective and then to the chest x-ray. the numbers could be flattening of the curve, my governor of new york said today. how do we destiistinguish the flattening of the curve to the waves? >> you're going to hav

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sanjay gupta here to answer your viewer questions. sanjay, great to have you back with us.imely and it has to do with a story in the news, pets and coronavirus. the question is from daniel, is it true a human can give a pet a cat or a dog a virus, but the pet can't give the virus to humans? what if the virus is on the pet's fur? >> yes. no, we think about this a lot in our household as well. so here's what we know. this virus, this coronavirus came from animals in the first place. likely bats is what the origin seems to be, may have lived in other creatures as well. but it made the jump at some point from animals to humans. and then over time, over the last couple of months we learned that some situations, seems to be pretty rare, humans have been able to give this to certain animals as well. tiger, lion, and now some pet cats. so that transmission seems to be there. again, unusual, but possible. they found that these cats, i guess, were having respiratory symptoms, they tested them and they were found to have the novel coronavirus. it is not clear whether the owners gave i

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sanjay gupta and dr. carlos del rio, dean and chair of the department of global health at emory school of medicine in atlanta. both of you gentlemen, this is not an obstruction what is happening in georgia. you both live in georgia. so sanjay, let me start with you, how comfortable are you with back off some of the social distance restrictions, how comfortable are you with barbers and hair salons and tattoo parlors, massage parlors, opening up on friday? >> well, i'm not very comfortable. i mean, this is a concern. it is a huge gamble as you framed it, john. i do understand the desire to open things, i hear about this living here from people that i know. but the problem is that it is just too early. the federal guidelines and they are just guidelines, but they recommend that we see a 14-day decrease in new infections. and we see a 14-day decrease in symptoms of these sorts of infections. but you can look at the graph, and see how, you know, georgia has sort of -- how the numbers have been over the last se

gupta, sanjay, about hydroxychloroquine. by the way, there is another small study just out now from shanghai suggesting that patients are still progressing despite hydroxychloroquine. it may be we're not getting the dose right, a lot of studies to work this out. i'm a bit on the fence. but hoping that something comes through. a couple of new things that have come along. is there a new study report, now using a monoclonal antibody, al-6. i was excited about this, because with previous sars, sars 1 in 2003, it was shown to have an important role in severe lung disease and that may be true of this one as well. by giving this antibody to the al-6 it may offer hope to people with severe illness because there san overis an overreactio immune system. both the initial virus infection, which is causing damage, and inflammatory response. this antibody may target the second piece. that is looking potentially promising. also, when we -- that also influences how we develop vaccines to kind of move away from that response, which can be so

sanjay gupta., i want you to watch what the president said last night and how he's trying to spin it today. >> supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, uh, whether it's ultraviolet or very powerful light. and then i said supposing you brought the light inside the body which you can do either through the skin or, uh, in some other way. and then i see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. one minute. and is there a way we can do something like that. uh, by injection inside. no, i was asking a question sarcastically to reporters like you just to see what would happen. >> in your latest column for "the new york times," tom, you write that this crisis is putting leadership skills under a microscope. what is this showing about president trump? >> well, wolf, i think what it's showing is that his daily coronavirus briefing has itself become a public health hazard. and cnn should actually put under the screen there, a crawl that says, you know, "parents beware, president trump is speaki

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sanjay gupta, chief medical correspondent, is with us. good morning, sanjay. >> good morning. >> can we start with this new modelling out of the university of georgia who has been at the forefront of this? the white house takes in a lot of what they say, and it shows essentially that after the end of june and july, we could see no more deaths in the united states from covid-19. is that right? >> it does. it shows that possibility, or at least very few deaths to the point where it starts to really decrease background activity of the virus. but it also, you know, takes into account that social distancing measures will have to last for some time. it's not an exact target, but -- and they're constantly updating these models on a day-by-day basis, but you're right, it does show you can get to a very low level of transmission. >> sanjay, let me understand. even if you social distance until the end of may, when you begin to relax and more people are out there, they're going to interact and presumably more people are going to be infected. just so

sanjay gupta. he has answers for us. we have a ton of questions.irst one, if you get the coronavirus and recover, can you contract it again? how long will anti-bodies last? >> we are not sure about this because this is still a novel virus and we are only a few months into this. but the answer seems to be that, yes, you will be immunized once you recover. your body makes these antibodies so the next time your body is exposed to it, your body is trained to attack it and get rid of it. that's what immunity is about. it has to be proven in trials but that's how other vicadvice viruss -- viruses have affected the body. once you have the i am community, the chance of you getting the infection any time again is low. >> that's encouraging. >> grocery stores are putting social distance in place, but lines are long. is it safe to wait in line or try to rely on food delivery? >> it is possible to both social distance and wait in line. i know it's a strange thing to see, but even at the whole clubs in columbus circle, you have long lines, longer than usual bec

sanjay gupta is standing by to answer your questions about coronavirus.ll be right back. >>> as we wait to hear from the experts on the coronavirus task force i want to bring in our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. sanjay, thanks very much for joining us. we have a lot of questions from our viewers. let me get right to the question. here's the first one. should i ask for a coronavirus antibody test? >> yeah, i think the answer to that is going to be yes. but it's not going to be widely available as of yet. there is one company i believe that has emergency authorization from the fda to start administering these tests. there's a lot of other companies out there, my colleague elizabeth cohen has been reporting on them, many of them are not fda approved. you've got to be careful. make sure if you do pursue this antibody test it's one of the ones at least approved under the authorization from the fda. wolf, you know but just to reiterate the antibody test is not looking for the virus, it's looking for the response to the virus in your body. if you

sanjay gupta is with us as well.i the wanted to make this into a big conversation and anybody who has something they want to say should say it. lauren, i want to start you with. and just give us the state of how you guys are doing as a family. you guys are really up against it. >> today, we got hit with my 15-year-old, she definitely came down with it. so i have been trying to deal with the 5 and 7-year-old, they don't really quite understanding what is happening and they want to be with mommy so we have a little makeshift room for them in my bedroom, they brought in tables and chairs and i had to have meals where i had to get out of bed and try to be a parent. >> how are your symptoms? >> besides the breeg breathing, i still get short of breath and thank goodness, i asked my husband before all of this, i have a pulse ox machine and i think i heck it every five to ten seconds. it is between 97 and 99 which gives me peace of mind. friends are sending me millions of things, music, everything, you know, to try to keep m

sanjay gupta back to answer some of them. all right, sanjay, here we go.is comes from karen fry from missouri. since coronavirus is now affecting meat processing plants and it really is, there is a tremendous amount of suffering going on there, could this have been transmitted from the unknowing ill meat processor handling the food to the meat itself? so transmitting from one worker to another on the meat. >> that is unlikely. it is possible, but unlikely. most likely the infection was probably through these respiratory droplets touching a surface. someone else touching that same surface, and then touching their eyes, nose or mouth. was that surface the meat? perhaps. but that would be less likely. and also keep in mind, i think most people probably know this by now, that the virus itself, if it is in your food, and then you eat that food, that's not the way you're going to get this virus. this is not a foodborne illness. so the processing plants, we look at these images, it is hard for people to maintain physical distance and also, you know, the distance

sanjay gupta and dr. yalotan grad at harvard's th chance school of public health. sanjay, i want to start with you. we heard from california, and what we're about to hear from the doctor here, about what restrictions might be in place, but from you i want to know why. why will these be in place for some time, these types of measures as we begin to reopen, and how will they help? >> the thing to remember, i think, john, the constant in all of this is that there is a virus that is still circulating out there. we get these different pictures of what is happening in the country and sort of realize we have been doing these extraordinary things. most of us staying at home, and it has had an impact on the transmission and the spread of this virus. the numbers that you point out still going up in some places, but maybe plateauing in others. i think everyone agrees at this point it could have been a lot worse at this point had we not put these stay at home orders in place. but, that hasn't changed the fact that the virus is still out there. at the time we start re-entry, if

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sanjay gupta reporting there. dr. phillips joins us now. great to have you with us, doctor. let's start with the mass testing he was referring to. 1.2 million tests were conducted last week. it is a significant improvement to previous weeks. but experts say that is not enough. what are your thoughts? >> i definitely think it is not enough yet. 330 million people in america and right now one of the simple markers that we can follow is how many of the tests are coming back positive. right now it is averaging around 20% of the tests that are done in the u.s. are coming back positive. the world health organization says you are doing enough test if it is 10% or less. in south korea they were getting 3% of their tests back positive. it means we are selecting out the people to be tested those at highest risk and not testing everybody else. we need to be able to test everybody else. >> we heard from the world health works this week that said there is no evidence to suggest that if you have the antibodies in the system and you are recovering that there is nothing to say that you can'

sanjay gupta, thank you for that. >>> i want to bring in dr. matthew.rimary care physician and cnn medical analyst. good to see you, doctor. >> hi, fredricka. >> let me get your reaction to what we just saw. how much of a potential game changer would it be for this kind of antibody testing? >> you know, as a public health specialist, i'm actually really excited. but i'm cautiously excited. and the reason is exactly what dr. gupta said. a lot of these tests that came out in the last few weeks were flawed. we have to remember that covid-19 shares its genetic material with some of its cousins like sars and the common cold. and a couple of these tests were wrongfully identifying not covid-19, but, say, the common cold. so i think we need to be really careful and make sure that we can validate when these newer test comes out and be sure that they are accurate. but if it works well, and they're sensitive and specific, this could absolutely be a game changer. >> dr. anthony fauci says we should have those tests in place by next week. how quickly can we, as a c

sanjay gupta and ali mukdad from health metrics and evaluations. sanjay, on the news overnight president trump retweeting this message with " #firefauci." your reaction when you see that? >> you know, this inflection point between politics and public health, i mean it's an uncomfortable place. no question about it. i was a little surprised, i think that dr. fauci clearly is somebody that the country, maybe the world has gotten to know, especially over the last few months, but you know, people in the public health community have known of him for decades, as you mentioned, john. he's worked for several presidents and then handled some of the biggest public health sort of stories of our time. hiv/aids, but also sars and mers and h1n1 and anthrax and all these other things. it's a tough spotty think. i think sometimes dr. fauci sort of gets pinned down, these are tough questions to answer, because at the time, we were dealing with a novel coronavirus, so exactly how it was going to behave, what the trajectory was going to be, there was lots of models ou

sanjay gupta. sanjay, good to see you, as always. as always, this is a model, just a projection, not fact. but the projection that the imhe found that the peak of the virus was already on april 19, is that encouraging news, is that something to hold on to? >> i think it's definitely encouraging news. some of these models have sort of tracked for a bit of time now, so they're starting to get more confidence in these models. but when you read these reports carefully, you find a couple of things. one is they're always going to change still, these models are going to change and they want to continue to be able to reevaluate this, even up until the day before one of these states may meet the criteria for reopening. but i think also, as part of these models there's a lot of assumptions. the assumptions, jake, which you and i have been talking about for some time is the testing has to be widely available in these places because they acknowledge that as soon as you start to reopen things, there are people who are otherwise not going to becom

sanjay gupta and dr. jeanne marrazzo, at the university of alabama at birmingham. great to see both of you. sanjay, i want to start with you. because you always caution us not to get too invested in these models that we see every week from, say the university of washington. the model the white house has been using. i can't help it. because it's the crystal ball. it's the only crystal ball we have into what the future looks like. yesterday we were interested to see that they had adjusted their model up from 60,000 deaths that they had predicted of americans over the next several months to 74,000. that got our attention. but sanjay, when we looked at the death count this morning of 58,000 people, basically for the last several days, 2,000 americans a day have been dying. we've plateaued, it seems at that number. so obviously, if that's the case, we're going to hit 74,000 americans dead in may. not in august as predicted. what do you make of these numbers? >> well, you there are first of all, lots of different models out there. this is one the white house has paid a lo

sanjay gupta. sanjay, first, your reaction. >> i was stunned by that. i mean, i had to, you know, rewind and play it back and forth a couple of times to make sure i heard that correctly. it was pretty clear he was riffing. there was a conversation earlier in the press briefing about environmental conditions, being out in the environment, what sunlight and humidity might do to the virus. but extrapolating from that, saying what would happen if we put disinfectant inside the body, i mean, it was stunning, you know, and dangerous. i was very anxious to see how the task force was going to respond to this, including ambassador birx, and dr. stephen hahn and everybody else. so it was just one of those moments where i saw this collision of, you know, this politics and science really happen. >> i wanted to ask you also, the fda warned today of serious side effects associated with chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. what does it takes for the fda to issue a warning like that and what's your reaction to that? >> yeah, no, it was pretty significant. the language w

sanjay gupta, thank you very much. >>> that was a short time, but you'll be able to hear from sanjay gupta this evening. he and anderson cooper are doing a new town hall, "coronavirus facts and fears" live at 8:00 p.m. here on cnn. >>> shattered record claims coming in. 600 million americans filing for unemployment last week alone. >> julia chatterley is here. julia, in 2008, or the depression, the country has never been through weeks like this. put this in perspective. >> it's dire. this is the price we pay for jobs shutting down the u.s. economy and telling people to stay home. to your point, and it's an important one, at the beginning we saw it was hospitality, hotels on the front line, but this is far more broadbased now. health care, even, warehousing, transportation. we've seen a ramp-up in states like pennsylvania, ohio, massachusetts. these were some of the first states to implement the stay-at-home orders and implement furlough, so i deduce from that we are going to see a continuation of the ramp-up of these claims. this is 10 million people claiming unemployment benefits in

sanjay gupta was saying. these numbers, you kind of get lost in the numbers but if you can't get a test when you need a test, where you need a test, what is the point? and that's what we're finding out from hospitals, from state labs, small laboratories all across the country who say, yeah, the big clinical corporate labs are getting the lion's share of the materials and the supplies they can run the tests but we can't because we don't have those supplies on a consistent basis. and so, we have to take our patients, send them to a lab, 2 or 3 days later, get the results and that's slowing down the process and prevent testing all across the country. that, brooke, has been consistent theme since february. they have not solved the supply issue and therefore, any numbers that jared kushner is talking about are irrelevant as far as i'm concerned. >> yep. thank you for your perspective on that and it does go back to february. thank you. >>> nearly 50 malls across several states are gearing up to reopen on friday. th

sanjay gupta is back to answer some of them. ay, this comes from susan, she wants to know what is the protocol for keeping cloth masks clean and virus free? do they have to be washed after every use, and if so, how? of course, this question is coming up since this week we're supposed to be using our homemade masks. >> right, and again, if you have to go out in public and you're going to be in a public place where social distancing is not really realistic, that's when we're talking about the cloth mask. i'm not saying if you go outside for a walk and there's nobody else around you need to wear a cloth mask. you wash it, typical laundry is fine with it. one of the biggest things, i'll grab my mask, have it sitting here, my daughter made me this mask, make sure that you're not touching the front of the mask when taking it on and off. that's why you can contaminate yourself. people fiddle with their mask when they touch their eyes, nose and mouth. wash it and make sure you don't contaminate yourself. >> nine goes in the bag and the w

sanjay gupta and dr. leana wen, former baltimore city health commissioner. sanjay, i want to start with you with these projections, 100 to 200,000 people, dr. fauci says, we can't anticipate that that many die. we don't have to accept it. but we should anticipate it. that is a big number and when you look at it, and you look at the projections, you suggest it might be an optimistic number because of how these numbers are put together. >> right. i mean, look, these are models and i think the people who are making these models said, look, this is the basement now in terms of the projections. those numbers we heard that are potentially much higher than this as well. they say if all these social distancing mechanisms are in place, and they're in place across the country, and they stay in place until the end of may, then, you know, we can look at these pretty tragic numbers of deaths, 100, 240,000 people. there is a lot of ifs in there, john. that's the big concern. we didn't start these social distancing policies early. we started these sort of, you know, in the

she also changed sanjay gupta's life and he joins us now. read your piece for cnn.com and it sounds like you and charlotte had a really special relationship. >> yeah. you know, alisyn, you've been doing this work for a long time, you do -- you develop these really strong, powerful relationships sometimes with the people that you cover. and i know you know -- you're told not to do that, and keep an arm's length away sometimes, but it is challenging. you get to know people over time. i've known charlotte for a long time, and seen her go through so many things, her and her entire family. and, you know, got a devastating text a couple of nights ago about what happened to her and i want you to look at what she represented. not just to me, i think, but to people all over the world. take a look. ♪ >> reporter: for the last 20 years, i straddled the world of medicine and journalism. and in both professions i'm always reminded, stay objective, do your best work, but don't get too close. with little charlotte figi, that was impossible. she just had th

sanjay gupta. so, sanjay, i want to start with a point here, one of the main headlines today, these projections from the department of homeland security and health and human services that "the new york times" has obtained. basically saying if stay-at-home orders are lifted after 30 days, there will be a dramatic spike in coronavirus cases this summer and the death tolls would be similar to what would have happened if nothing had been done in the first place. for a lot of places, that puts you, having these orders ending essentially basically when the president wants them to, in early may. what is the exit ramp here? >> yeah, i mean, you know, it's interesting. people are hearing some good news, i think, over the last few days in terms of these numbers maybe plateauing. obviously, the death toll is still so tragic to think about, but possibly some signs of encouragement. but also this admonition that if we sort of let up a bit here that the virus, which is still a very contagious virus -- it's still

sanjay gupta keeps coming back to answer them, sometimes against his better judgment. are all great questions. this comes from rick. he wants to know is there data that compares people infected with coronavirus who had previously received a flu vaccine to those who didn't get one and is their recovery different? >> yeah, that's a great question. different virus, even though these are both viruses, there is not really any correlation between having received the flu vaccine and whether that's protective against the coronavirus. but you should very much get a flu vaccine. quick point, alisyn, i remember you and i talking about this some time ago, fewer than half the adults in the united states last year got the flu vaccine. now as we talk about the fall and the potential idea that both coronavirus and flu could happen at the same time, one thing that would really help is if people do get their flu shot this year in terms of decreasing that. because, you know if you can decrease the number of flu cases, you'll take the strain off the hospitals and reduce the amplitude of th

sanjay gupta, you are a gift.nk you for being on the show tonight. >> you got it, chris, any time. >> and thank your daughter for the mask, it's awesome. i can't believe i've kept it away from the girls so long, because this is the best looking thing in the house, and it covers my mouth, which is a bonus. >>> california has been taking a much more cautious approach than any of the 21 states reopening now. why? what do they see that other states are discounting or ignoring altogether? we have the mayor of los angeles here. another lucky guest. why? his city is about to be the first city in the nation to do something that is very significant. what is it? next. since 1926, nationwide has been on your side. we've been there in person, during trying times. today, being on your side means staying home... "nationwide office of customer advocacy." ...but we can still support you and the heroes who are with you. we're giving refunds on auto insurance premiums, assisting customers with financial hardships, and our foundatio

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