sankar you nodding your head is that correct? >> just like the starship. elon learns more from the starship breaking up then from inherently waiting and slowing down to get the right perfect lunch one time around. the value the rate of learning the first derivative of learning is our competitive how quickly we are adapting not what we capable of doing today is how much are we change it tomorrow i could not more. >> thank you mr. chairman. >> thank you very much. before i recognized senator banks i think we need to add to the record a smaller copy of that chart. >> i will provided to the committee. find it very interesting and if you don't mind, what's the object that you just picked up and tell us a little bit more about that. >> going to your first point if america goes to work tonight we will go to war with multi trillion dollar legacy force we have today when we talk about innovation while great offset hedge forces replicators of autonomous robots we must make sure innovation is supporting the multi trillion dollar force we have today. there was a degre

sankar, mr. diller, mr.kar will start with you what's been your company's experience having navigated the pentagon's accounting and invoicing standards regulatory requirements. terms of payment, how is that affected your ability to do business with the dod and you said you been there i believe couple of decades so maybe in the early days as a smaller company may be much more intimidating at that point. if you go back in history a little bit what was it like as a startup trying to do business with dod?>> it was quite complicated. i can't tell you the number of times we submitted invoices and some how didn't fill out the right box and the invoice was get back. people say, the government to pay its bills i think you can in the end. but perhaps not always on time. so it's not commercial. we should be thinking about where the divergence from commercial standards helps the taxpayer and the government and where is it best to. i think it does act as a deterrent to new insurance coming in. >> for the small business f

shyam sankar as chair i couldn't agree more with your defense reformation paper where you state that small business programs should not be welfare. i agree wholeheartedly and in the past decade 25 companies notoriously known in my circles as stir mills. received 18% of all award dollars dod amounting to about $2.3 billion. that's a $92 million windfall per company. in a program meant for small businesses. gao reports these frequent flyers have lower sales and investments and fewer resulting patents. we have a problem here. how can we eliminate this waste of taxpayers dollars and reorient the fdir program to its original purpose as a source of merit-based funding. >> i couldn't agree more that's clearly abuse of the intent. we can think about time limiting how long companies are eligible is not just about the size but we aspire for the company to be ÃÃsome amount of time we expect you to have the opportunity to get bathed the other part is more of a top down as we measure the efficacy of different programs we should be thinking about only big companies were we able to create. that wil

sankar you nodding your head is that correct? >> just like the starship. elon learns more from the starship breaking up then from inherently waiting and slowing down to get the right perfect lunch one time around. the value the rate of learning the first derivative of learning is our competitive how quickly we are adapting not what we capable of doing today is how much are we change it tomorrow i could not more. >> thank you mr. chairman.